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Mindemae
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OH NO ICH!
« on: October 19, 2010, 09:46:59 PM »

Well I did a really d*mb thing.  I went and bought aquarium plants from my local grocery store and even tho I rinsed the plants off, the two tanks I planted them in now have ich.
My 20 gallon and my 75 gallon.
I noticed tonight that my pleco had spots so I looked closely and sure enough he has ich and one zebra danio.
Well I treated the tank with aquarium salt and rid ich +  but I didn't have enough for the 75 gallon tank and I live so far away from a pet shop that I decided to treat the 75 gallon with salt, melafix and pimafix and a heater.
The best I could do is order some more rid ich+ online.
I'll keep you updated on how things go.
Oh brother I'm so mad I could kick myself.
I wonder if I had soaked the plants in salt water first if it wouldhave killed the ich.
I guess I really didn't think plants could transfer ich to a tank.
This is the first time this has happened. Sad
All the fish and the plants looked real healthy at the store too.
What a bummer this is..... Sad
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pappy-fish81
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 10:21:39 PM »

I'm so sorry to hear that.  Sad
I used quick cure last time my fish got ich.
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 11:08:38 PM »

New plants and the water from the fish store can carry ich. The plants should be placed in a quarantine tank like new fish for about a week or so to ensure no ich parasites can transfer over to your regular aquarium. You should keep the water at temperatures in the mid to upper 70s F for a week  or about two weeks at room temperature so the ich parasites can die off. You don't have to add salt or medicine since some plants can't tolerate them.  Ich cannot survive without the presence of fish.  If you provide enough lighting and add a little plant nutrients to the quarantine tank, the plants should be ok during the quarantine period.

You can successfully get rid of ich from  the 75 gallon with heat alone (depending on how high your heater can go) or a combination of  heat and salt. Be sure to raise the temperature slowly at most 2F per hour and watch for signs of stress from the fish. Ich doesn't  infect new fish at 85F and stop reproducing at 86F . The heat method will work for goldfish well also.

If you have live plants that can't tolerate heat or salt , you can move them to a different tank and quarantine them there.



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Mindemae
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 11:14:17 PM »

Thank you Nabi for all this great info! Smiley
I'll tell you that I learned my lesson and will quarantine my plants from now on! Smiley
Hopefully other people can learn from my ignorance about this...that will be one good thing. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2010, 12:36:45 AM »

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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2010, 03:05:39 AM »

This happened to my teacher too Sad She had a pleco for more than 10 years (WOWWW!!) in her 210 gallon (800L) and he died from ich, just because of some st*pid plant she had bought in a shop where the fish were unhealthy :/ She did notice, but didn't really think it'd contaminate her fish! There's this awesome collection of strange catfish and cichlids in her tank, I never managed to see it, but I'd so much love to! Smiley

Anyways, good luck treating your fish! I'm sure they'll be ok! Especially with the new info Smiley
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2010, 04:08:37 AM »

If ich can't survive without fish then how come these plants have it?? Sorry to hear about that Mindemae, I find it pretty amazing that you can get aquarium plants at your local grocery store just to say  Cheesy
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2010, 09:21:26 AM »

Hi Andrea,
The plants were in the tanks with the fish they sell there.
It's the only pet place in town and they sell fish and plants.
I know its a hoot.  They sell fresh fish to eat in one section and fish as pets in another! Roll Eyes LOL!
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2010, 10:00:03 AM »

Thanx everyone for your support!!!! Smiley Kiss
I'll keep you updated!!!!
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2010, 05:23:00 PM »

Oh I found this article from another forum about goldfish and plants .

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    * Quarantine - it may be prudent to quarantine your plants by having them in a quarantine tank for at least two weeks. Some plants will not like the process of being replanted again(such as crypts or swords). You may also subject your plants to chemical baths that may kill dangerous pathogens.
    * Potassium Permanganate (PP) is a product often used to treat plants. You can bathe your plants for 15 minutes in a 10mg/l solution of PP. You can also use a copper product called Had-a-Snail to remove snails and pathogens sensitive to copper. Remember to rinse the plants thouroghly after bathing them in chemicals.
    * When goldfish get sick, plants may suffer from the treatments you use. Therefore you should add plants only after you are relatively sure that your goldies are healthy and that you do not have to treat the main thank.
    * Plants are sensitive to salt.


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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2010, 05:35:35 PM »

Gee, Minde, this is a bummer... and I learned from this thread.
I never had it in mind that plants actually can carry ich. I always put them in the tank after rinsing with warm water.

Hope your fishies will be fine soon.
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2010, 05:51:01 PM »

thanx Pappy! Good Article and I did see where they say to quarantine your plants!!!!! Wink
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2010, 05:57:39 PM »

Hi Hanna,
Thank you!  I never knew plants could infect an aquarium with ich either....learned my lesson. Roll Eyes
I'm glad if this thread can help other people tho. Smiley
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 09:38:59 PM »

Oh I see, luckily where I buy my plants from they have the plants in their own separate tanks. But they have snails in them occasionally by accident. Can they carry ich too? I may have to start quarantining my plants too Smiley
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 09:41:31 PM »

Yeah you really should.   Who knows where the plants come from and what they've been exposed to. Sad
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2010, 06:30:56 PM »

Well, we might be soon over the ich.  YAY!  I only see 1 goldfish in the 75 g tank with a bit still on his tail.  Some never broke out and the others had a wee bit but they have no spots now!  In the tropical tank the pleco still has a few spots but they are down in number considerably!  The zebra danio has one spot I see.  I think I caught it soon enough that it didn't beome an epidemic!  Whew! I'm so glad I treated as soon as I saw the spots!  I'm hoping to wake up tomorrow and see zero spots!!!  Then I can do a water change sun or monday! Smiley
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2010, 10:14:43 PM »

I'm glad to know that it's almost over... Smiley
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2010, 06:40:02 AM »

Gee, this is a relief... Shocked
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Mindemae
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2010, 12:19:50 PM »

Yay!  The ich is dead!!! Cheesy
The heat and salt treatment worked wonders on the ich.  ZERO casualties!!!
OMG! Thank you all so much for your kind words, treatment recommendations, and support!
KARMA for everyone!! LOL! Grin
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2010, 04:50:38 PM »

LOL, THX so much and I am soooooooooooooooo happppyyyy Grin
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 03:44:54 AM »

That's wonderful! Smiley I'm very happy for ya! Cheesy
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Re: OH NO ICH!
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2010, 04:19:35 AM »

Very glad to here it's gone, even happier to hear it is gone with no casualties Smiley
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