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goldfishsister
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my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« on: August 06, 2011, 09:00:38 AM »

i have a goldfish for one and half years.Last week i've went to holiday for five days and left it to my neighbour.when i backed, i saw that it's nose's turned red and had a white point on it. But my goldfish's very active.it's eating normally.also i sometimes give peas or egg yolk to it. I worry about my little orange goldfish. Why can it to be? Before that it had colored white but i thought that can be caused of temperature or light. But i couldnt find anything about this event. please help me. This is the fish that lives the longest time i have ever had .i am waiting your answers before my fish dead.  Sad
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 02:59:45 AM »

How big is the tank? Did I change out any water when you got home?

Pictures would be most helpful too Smiley This could be a small infection in the mouth though, it might have gotten hurt and infected due to bad water quality. Maybe you should go buy some antibiotic medicated food and feed only that to your fish for a week and see if it helps? Other than that, I'd perform a 50-75% water change, and add some medicine to the tank as well, you could try melafix for instance.
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 09:12:28 AM »

This is my little goldfish. I looked around its body's around, there wasnt any flea or exc. I am searching about antibiotics. thanks and if you have another advices, i am waiting. Smiley and does my fish die becaused of this infection?
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 12:20:19 PM »

goldfishsister your fish will probably die unless you get 40 liter tank and a filter very soon! All goldfish need a minimun of 40 liter of water space!
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 02:03:06 PM »

thanks for your comment but isnt 40 liter water so much for just a small goldfish? because my goldfish is maybe 6-8 cm around i think. and it is living in this bowl for last half and one year.but i'll try to change it. have you got any advice other this, medicines for instance, i am waiting. Sad
 
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 03:09:24 PM »

No it isn't. But at this size a 20 liter is good for now untill it grows bigger. Right now its small because it has been live in a bowl. Inside a goldfish will grow to the size of the bowl but the inside keep growing and kill the fish. Your fish could easily reach 8 inches if kept in good condition.

Right know if you can't get a bigger tank it would be a good idea to do a water change. Smiley You can also use a 5 gallon toat box filled with water for goldfish untill you are able to get a glass tank.
There is also a possibility that the bump is just a tumor and doesn't do harm to the fish untill it get to heavy.
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 02:42:39 AM »

No, fantailer, a 20 liter is NOT enough!! D8

goldfishsister: The reason your fish got sick is because you keep it in the bowl, it's poisoning itself because there are no beneficial bacteria to deal with the waste. You have to get yourself a 40 liter as soon as possible if you want to keep this little fish.
Goldfish grow incredibly fast if they have the space, and yours doesn't, so he's probably stunted already and will never reach full size :/ He probably won't even live longer than maybe a year, max two more.
When a goldfish is stunted it means that his internal organs keep growing but the fish can't, this obviously doesn't sound very good, right? You need to find a bigger tank for this fish! Goldfish, especially long-bodied ones, will easily reach 12 inches of length, and live for 20-30 years. It feels pretty sad to kill it after 2 years, keeping it in a bowl knowing this.
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 04:02:34 AM »

Thanks for your advices. the people live in my zone, grows their fishes in small tanks.and my old goldfishes lived max 5 mounths. i am a new goldfishsitter Smiley So i hadnt know its dangerous untill read your advices. I change the water once in every two days. but to all appearances i must change the even bowl. and i want to ask one more question: is area's size of water exposed to air important for the first step? because i think take my goldfish to a big water container untill buy a big tank.

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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 04:11:53 AM »

and i am sorry but i dont know what is the toat box. i searched in different dictionary but i didnt find anywhere Sad is that toast box?
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 04:54:19 AM »

Youre right Nossie.
goldfishsister a 40 liter toat box is like medium sized plastic storage box.
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 06:23:16 AM »

thanks Smiley i learned very important things from there. i have couldnt take enough information before this forum. and what can i do for treatment i searched antibiotics like melafix near places. but i didnt found. Maybe i can use very very little different medicines(driblets for us) contain kindly antibiotics. what do you think about it?
by the way white point that is on the red zone of my fish is lacked decreased i think. Smiley i hope my fish will be good. do you advice any food for it different from spinach, peas ..  ?
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 06:26:49 AM »

and a storage box will be colored. doesn't it hurt my fish's state of mind?
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 07:02:55 AM »

Some storage boxes can be clear i have 3 of them.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2011, 09:26:39 AM »

i will choose one of clears i had couldnt thought it Smiley and my fish's white infection point is lacked. there is just red zone on the head.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2011, 03:43:12 PM »

When you choose a tank later, take one that is more long/wide than high, goldfish need a lot of oxygen and the more surface area the better Smiley
It's pretty dangerous having an infection by the head, it's usually something internal that would be very hard to treat :/ But, first things first. If you meant to use human antibiotics on the fish, don't ever! It would be incredibly dangerous and probably kill the fish faster than the disease would D:
If you can't find the medicated fish food, I'm not sure what could be done :/ Did you try looking for a brand called Jungle? They make lots of medicated foods for different purposes.
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2011, 11:28:20 PM »

thanks for your advices Smiley
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2011, 01:34:16 PM »

I've had my fish for at least 20 to 23 years--this is the first time he/she has been sick--I've already been adding maracyn to the thirty gallon tank. I have not removed sponge, carbon or amonia cleaner from filter I never added another fish for fear (Nod)  would get sick  From what I could discover the poor thing as got fin and tail rot hence the fungus treatment I'm now looking for an antifungal food  I need a name to start with,tried petco and pet smart this morning and no luck
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Re: my goldfish's nose is turning red and this zone has one more white point on it.
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2011, 03:45:00 PM »

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I've had my fish for at least 20 to 23 years--this is the first time he/she has been sick--I've already been adding maracyn to the thirty gallon tank. I have not removed sponge, carbon or amonia cleaner from filter I never added another fish for fear (Nod)  would get sick  From what I could discover the poor thing as got fin and tail rot hence the fungus treatment I'm now looking for an antifungal food  I need a name to start with,tried petco and pet smart this morning and no luck


Hi Weezer,

You should remove the carbon from the filter, since it can interfere with the medicine. Leave the sponge and the filter running. Maracyn can affect the beneficial bacteria in a negative way so keep an eye on your water parameters, especially ammonia and nitirite for spikes and do partial water changes if the levels rise too high.

Bacterial infection  is the cause of tail and fin rot, so fungus treatment will probably not work. Make sure you correctly diagnose the disease first..don't just throw in different types of drugs hoping they will work or you could end up killing your fish instead of helping.

First thing you should do is make sure your water is in perfect condition before beginning any type of treatment. I suggest you do a 50-60 percent water change first.

Walmart carries jungle antibacteria fish food, though i'm not sure they have in the store. They will ship it to you or to the store for you to pick up or you can call them and ask .

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Amazon.com also carries anti-bacteria fish food too.

Make sure you are using the correct medication. (Maracyn treats gram-positive bacterial infections, whereas Maracyn II treats gram-negative bacterial infections). Finrot if often caused by gram negative bacteria. You can use maracyn II in combination with jungle antibacteria medicated food, but keep a very close eye on your water paramaters.
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2011, 04:10:54 AM »

I agree with nabi.

And in case you can find it, it may help filtering with zeolite, this will absorb ammonia in case the biological filter would get destroyed.
But don't use it if you're planning to treat with salt along with the medicine!!
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 07:13:41 PM »

Nabi's is right the carbon should be removed as it will absorb the meds in the water and make your treatment ineffective, and to add to Nossie' answer, zeolite will also give you crystal clear water... mmmm crystal clear water....
and Nossie, again, great advice but you know I have to ask the question, why do you need to remove the zeolite if you're planning to treat with salt along with the medicine? I spose its the same reason we remove the carbon? Cheers
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2011, 04:14:45 AM »

Zeolite can be used over and over again, you simply make it release the ammonia by putting it a bucket with salty water. The salt will pull out the ammonia from the zeolite, so it'd be a waste filtering with it when using salt since it'd sort of nullify any effect Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2011, 07:47:28 PM »

cheers Nossie, and thanks, thats very interesting info regarding the zeolite, I just ditch it in the garden usually, and sorry to impose upon you another question but do you know how long the salty water would take to release the ammonia... regards> Ron
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2011, 06:39:51 AM »

Honestly, no idea.... : D
I haven't used zeolite more than once myself, and that wasn't for a longer period so I don't think it'd need to be "emptied".
Maybe you could try looking around online about some info? Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2011, 08:39:24 PM »

cheers Nossie,  Wink did just that, took a little reading but I found a nice article on bio media that says once zeolite is saturated, it is usually possibl to recharge by soaking it in salty water for a few days... if anyone is interested in the bio media article its quite good and is at (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
I was using the zeolite to reduce the ammonia when I could see it rising while my tank was cycling, now that it has finished cycling (thanks to you all here for your help Smiley ) I could probably stop using it now... regards... > Ron
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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2011, 10:52:02 AM »

Very nice!! I'll bookmark it Wink
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