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Onael
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New Fluval Filter
« on: November 17, 2011, 02:54:11 AM »

Hi. Can anyone tell me what the flow rate of the Fluval Nano Aquarium Filter is? The packaging states that it's rated for a 15gal tank, but it doesn't show the GPH. I'm just curious to see how much total filtration I now have. I have 530GPH between my two Tetra power filters and I just added the Fluval submersible filter. BTW, I have all this filtration in a 20gal tank. Should be good enough, right?
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Skwishee
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 03:33:51 PM »

May I ask why you have so much filtration on a 20 gallon tank?

With Goldfish (I assume thats what you have?) you need the filtration to be 10X the tank size. So on a 20 gallon tank you'd only need a filter that can do 200 gallons per hour.
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Onael
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 07:13:25 PM »

I'm overstocked so I need to be able to keep up with my goldies.
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Skwishee
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 05:26:52 AM »

In general over stocking a tank is a pretty bad thing, it results in more maintenance, the fish all have less swimming space and will get stressed with too many fish being in one place.

How many goldfish do you have in the 20 gallon and what sizes are they currently?
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Nossie
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 09:06:04 AM »

In that case, why waste money on filters if you could just have bought a bigger tank?
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 12:29:43 PM »

Haha my question too but I knew nossie would take care of it for me  Smiley
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Onael
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 06:54:43 PM »

2 moors
1 butterfly
3 orandas
3 ryukins
2 fantails
1 pearlscale

They're an average of two inches each. My tank is planted and I got 530+ GPH filtration. My water is clear and readings are all zeros. They all seem to be very happy. The larger tank is going to have to wait until I can buy a house. My current landlord won't let me have more than 30 gallons. My daughter has a 10 gallon tank with some oscars in her room so I'm stuck with the 20 for now.
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 07:57:50 PM »

Wow. 6x the reccommended number of fish.... Shocked and all fairly large too.... And I thought my 29 was too crowded with three 2" fish....
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 10:46:14 PM »

Please please please you must do something with them, if they aren't now they quickly will be suffering greatly. I believe by looking around here you have seen that the absolute minimum space necessary for one goldie is 10 gallons. At 2 inches, the most you can keep in there temporarily is probably 3 maybe 4, and that is indeed only very very temporary. They grow super fast and trust me they make lots of waste, my 2 inch oranda died from too much ammonia with 10 gallons to herself. Filtration is great but it can't just make all the poison in the water go away. Please for the sake of the fish give most away or return them to the store. I promise im not trying to be rude, but its just not fair or humane to the fish.  Undecided
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Onael
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 11:31:41 PM »

I hear you. Some day I will have a larger tank, but for now they look happy.
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 01:03:16 AM »

I believe you that they look happy but I question whether they actually are, ya know. Its like putting 12 people in a room meant for 1 or 2...... If you would consider that a violation of human rights, its a violation of the fishes rights too Sad I am worried about their health and well-being..
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 06:01:08 AM »

Just because they survive doesn't mean they thrive.
I am honestly pretty amazed that you stuffed so many fish in there in the first place, usually we come across tanks that have 2 fish too many, not 10.

I hope "some day" means "next Thursday" for the fishes' sake. Completely seriously. Don't you dare keep them in that tank any longer than absolutely necessary, space is just as important as water quality!!
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 11:28:37 AM »

I agree with the others.

While these fish are all 2 inches long now, they will grow. Fancy varieties grow quite a bit, usaully somewhere between 6 - 8 inches I believe, now imagine if all those babies are 8 inches, you can see the problem. While I can understand the situation at the moment may look okay, things may very well go down hill, as the fish grow.

Also how are your daughters oscars doing? They will possibly also need a larger aquarium given that they grow pretty big, to around 12 inches or more I believe.

I can understand your limited by the rules of your landlord, would it be possible for a larger tank to be set up elsewhere at a family or friends place? Or do you know anyone who already keeps fish that could look after them for a while? Or you may have to give some of the fish away, but that can be a last resort, as I'm sure you care about the fish.

The maximum amount of fish that can be kept in a 20 gallon is 2 fancy goldfish, so please do the best that you can for the other 10 fish okay?
It's an easy mistake to make, I know, I had 2 goldfish in a 5 gallon, but one died after a week because of the toxins that were given off from un eaten food and fish poo. The other one, Lucky she's okay, but she needs a bigger tank and I'm getting one next month.

I really hope you keep us updated with how you get on and I wish you all the best for resolving this situation.
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Onael
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 05:45:02 PM »

I understand your concerns and you make valid points. Any ideas on the flow rating of the nano filter?
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2011, 07:57:06 AM »

It really doesn't matter, you've got more than enough filtration for that tank. Besides, google the model maybe and you'll find the answer?
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2011, 11:31:22 AM »

Okay. Thank you. I didn't mean to upset you guys.
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2011, 12:00:50 PM »

I too don't know much about filters either, any luck on a larger home for the fish?
If you don't mind me asking, why will the landlord only let you have 30 gallons? Any chance you could talk to him again and see if you could have a bigger tank?
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Onael
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2011, 01:13:53 PM »

@Skwishee, in order to mitigate water damage. I'm not authorized a waterbed either. Undecided
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 04:36:07 AM »

But a tank has a far smaller chance to burst or leak than a water bed.
However, if the landlord is so paranoid he thinks you'll be spilling water everywhere maintaining it, that's probably without any reasonable base, you might be able to talk to him provided that you've got some useful evidence/experience! Like you've kept fish for several years without leakage etc?

It just got to me... you're not allowed to have a bigger tank than a 30 gallon, and somehow you ended up getting Oscars (of all fish) for your daughter? These will end up being 12 inches or bigger and they're creating even more waste than goldfish!
Just wondering, did you have a bigger tank before, or how come you ended up with so many unsuitable fish for such small tanks?
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 05:41:10 AM »

Yes I mentioned about the oscars too, I've seen them in Pets at Home and the adult fish are huge!

If it's any help Onael, my dad has had a tank for over 10 years with no problems and the people here have had aquariums with no problems. Tanks are well built and very un likely to leak let alone burst, if they are looked after properly.

If your landlord is worried about water damage, is it possible to maybe have a deposit for that? So at the end of your tenancy should there be any damage the landlord will be covered and if there isn't any (which will probably be the case) you get the money back.
As long as you have a written and signed agreement for such a thing, it could be another option for you to consider?
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 06:01:03 AM »

Here, there aren't any limits for tank sizes, but instead we pay an amount of money before moving in (in case we'd lose the key or break something) and later they check the apartment if it's in the same condition as it was when we moved in. If it's not, we'd pay for changing floors or wallpapers or that kind of things Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 06:09:35 AM »

Yeah it's the same here normally, but some places have bonds for pets and such, so my house mate had to pay extra for her Cat and any damages caused by said Cat, means it will be taken out of the pet bond and not our house deposit.

We're thinking of getting Lucky and the larger tank just added into the deal, so the same price my house mate already pays, but it will cover the cat and the fish  Smiley

One other thing Onael, if your landlord does agree to such a thing, take photos of the cleared area where you plan to have the aquarium before you put it in and then take photos of said cleared area again before you move out.
This way if the Landlord does try to get any money, you'll have proof there is no damage Smiley
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2011, 09:23:03 AM »

water damage is a) unlikely and b) covered on your home insurance
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2011, 10:45:59 AM »

scrivens- many renters policies carry such clauses, it doesn't matter how unlikely the damage is, and renter's insurance does not cover damage from a fish tank. I paid a huge (several months rent) deposit for my tanks.
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2011, 01:34:05 PM »

Found it. This model is rated at 81GPH.
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2011, 10:58:27 AM »

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scrivens- many renters policies carry such clauses, it doesn't matter how unlikely the damage is, and renter's insurance does not cover damage from a fish tank. I paid a huge (several months rent) deposit for my tanks.


Mine covers water damage from fish tanks...... in fact all accidental damage
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2011, 04:59:55 AM »

why why why do you have oscars !!!!!!!!!! I cant even keep ONE in my 240litre tank (about 55 UK gallons)

You will just kill all your fish for what reason, we have all overstocked tanks at some point in the hobby but 10 goldfish is in 20 gallons you must have done no research what so ever. Take the fish back including the poor oscars and go and get your self some tetras if you really want to do this hobby and research first. The goldfish is probably the most abused pet we have as a nation here in the UK and prob the US as well. And your just demonstrating it.

Sorry but I am p***ed at your ingorance to your animal husbandry
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Re: New Fluval Filter
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2011, 05:38:40 AM »

toffee: Onael recently got a 30 gallon so that he'll be able to split the fish up, which he did quite recently. You do have a valid point, but it's sometimes pretty hard to get a 120 gal tank just like that. No reason to snap.

You sometimes have to recognize when someone is trying their best to keep the fish as happy as possible, note all the extra filtration on the tank! However, I agree on the Oscars, they should be returned. That way there would another extra 10 gallons for a goldfish.
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