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Goldiegirl
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A Tragic End
« on: June 06, 2011, 08:24:52 PM »

My beautiful baby ranchu, who was thriving happily in my pond, sadly passed before her time. On morning I went to the edge of the water and was unable to find her. Then I saw a large grey snake curled up beside the pond. It's belly was swollen in one spot...just the size of my precious fishy. R.I.P. Jade!  Cry
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Re: A Tragic End
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2011, 03:48:12 AM »

Poor baby Jade :'c How terrible! Sad
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Goldiegirl
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Re: A Tragic End
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2011, 09:52:00 AM »

Thanks Nossie  Sad I made sure to take the snake far away so it wouldn't come back and hunt down my other fish...
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 05:57:26 AM »

That sucks...Sorry to hear that, what a lovely fish... I lost two favourite fish a few years ago to a heron, I now cover my pond with some 1/2" black plastic mesh ... herons can be so sneaky, now I know snakes are too... condolences > Ron
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Re: A Tragic End
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 08:05:30 PM »

Thank you, Ron. Outdoor fishkeeping would be much easier without the predators. I cover mine now with a thin screen material snakes can't get into. However, this morning there was one resting on top and trying to find a way in, as well as a huge one gliding away.  Angry I've never encountered this problem before, so trying to battle the new threat without much experience...  Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 03:38:36 AM »

Wow thats a lot of snakes  Shocked ... I have had a few experiences with snakes, here in South Australia the snakes are all very dangerous and often lethel... our first dog my partner and I had (a kelpie) was killed by a snakebite, she died in my arms on the way to vets, It was one of the worst experiences of my life...  Sad still hard to talk about, and I have had a few dogs since then... Also my fathers dog (another kelpie) was bitten by a snake at xmas time, we quickly noticed she wasn't right, got her to a vet in time, they gave her an anti-venom, she was lucky to survive it...
We were involved in founding and running a wildlife rescue group here for a while, and we found with snakes there is often an underlying reason they are there, it could be due to a lack of food in their natural environment (so they look for it in yours) or that they are there seeking the little creatures that live in and around our houses and yards (the ones we dont see)... Hope you can find a way to keep them at bay... keep us posted if you find a solution... cheers > Ron.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 09:17:06 AM »

Snakes and other predators are my main concern actually and the reason why I'm not sure if I want a pond in the future :/
I'd love to have a few pretty koi in the back yard, but around here (western coast of Finland) there's such a load of snakes and house cats that I'd get really worried about it! D:
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Re: A Tragic End
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 10:52:43 AM »

Oh my goodness, Ron, that's so heartbreaking to hear about your dog  Cry Cry so sorry about that, the loss of my goldfish doesn't seem half so tragic in that light. That must have been an awful experience; I couldn't even ever imagine how terrible that must have been! It's understandable that would be hard to talk about.

Fortunately around where I live in the states the snakes we have are mostly large gardener snakes of a gray or green color. They are not deadly to humans, but very deadly to fish as they swim extremely fast...

So far, the best solution has been to construct a large piece of screen, fixed to a framework of boards with a staple gun. This covering I put over the water and weigh down with heavy rocks...primitive, yes, but so far the snakes have been unable to get into the water.

Cats would be a deadly threat to koi, I would imagine, Nossie! It wouldn't do to be worried about your fish all the time, although those striking fish would look beautiful in a pond  Smiley
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Re: A Tragic End
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 04:35:42 AM »

With outdoor pond our problems would be:
Birds
Hogs
Deer
Raccoons
Snakes
Pond turtles
Bobcats
Snapper turtles

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 09:41:58 AM »

Definitely Smiley But, it'll be a very long time until I'll even afford my own backyard most likely, so I can calmly figure something out until then xD
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 10:27:06 AM »

Thank you for the kind words Goldiegirl  Smiley, the loss of any creature close to our hearts is distressing... in regards to outdoor ponds and predators, it is a shame we have to cover our ponds with mesh, but its the only way to keep our fish safe...
you guys are so lucky to be able to have Koi, over here its on the banned list... anything with the word Carp in its title and they freak out  Angry... someone introduced European Carp to one of our Main Rivers (The Murray River) some 30 odd years ago and now its infested with them, pushing our native fish (the Murray Cod and Perch) to the brink...
Hey Fantailer, thats a lot of predators to have around, wow, bet you have to watch your own back too Grin how about alligators Cheesy, I think you get a few of them down your way... Regards all > Ron.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 03:52:36 AM »

Aww :/ I think I heard/read about that somewhere... you start wondering why people do that.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 04:58:36 AM »

People here moan about to much backyard but I seem to like it. Huh
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 10:07:36 AM »

No prob, Ron. How true that is. Hmmm, that's weird...why would anybody do something like that, why not just give them back to the shop if you don't want them???

I do love watching the native wildlife we have around here. Our wildlife includes coyotes, bears, snakes, mountain lions...they are so majestic and make for a great place to live (if you don't happen to run into one directly). I just don't like when they infiltrate my fish domain.  Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2011, 08:12:51 PM »

My partner and I are the same, we spend a lot of our spare time watching and photographing the wildlife, mainly birds and waterbirds (ducks etc)...  Smiley
Wow you do have a few predators that you need to watch out for  Shocked ... when I see your list I realise we dont have that many predators that might eat us, only the saltwater croc's (but they are all in northern Aus), we have Dingo's... but they only take babies apparently  Wink , they do kill sheep, and occasionaly they attack children where man has been feeding them  Angry. Our Kangaroos will attack if they are threatened or surprised, a large one can cause considerable injury and even kill you by kicking out with their hind legs while balancing on their tail...
looking at your wildlife list and taking a guess... its sounds as though you are somewhere near the Yellowstone National Park... again love your new fish  Smiley > Ron

ps: noticed no wolves on your list so it prob is not Yellowstone. > Cheers
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2011, 11:39:04 AM »

Wow, I never knew Kangaroos could be so vicious! We don't have any out here...but remind me not to threaten or surprise one  Wink And Dingos... they sound alot like coyotes. The coyotes out here are usually pretty shy, but they do attack people occasionally if you happen to stumble upon a mother with pups. And of course, if your small dog or cat runs away, they're an instant meal. The bears are drawn to the garbage bins so they can get quite bold, but they typically lope off if you get close to one.

We do have a few wolves, but they're pretty rare where I live.  Smiley

And thank you! So do I! Will pass that on to them  Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2011, 04:47:03 AM »

oh yes, thats why our olympic mascot is boxing kangaroo Cheesy (lol), but their not all that bad, its fully grown males that can be a danger, they grab you with those little front legs and kick out with the large hind ones, I have seen captive males have a go at people , mainly human males, I think it's a dominance thing... bears are so majestic, to see them scavenging through our waste must be a little sad to say the least... and you have a constant challenge keeping your pets safe, we are a bit lucky we dont have that problem... have to say I have enjoyed our little wildlife discussion,  Smiley cheers Goldiegirl. > Ron
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2011, 09:58:45 AM »

I love bears; they're incredibly beautiful as well as powerful. It is sad when they dig through trash, I agree...people are encouraged to purchase trash cans that are "bear proof." Bears usually only do that when food is scarce...most of the time they are contented to eat berries and small game. However, the smell of the remains of a BBQ or fish can be tantalizing. Smiley

It's especially sad when a neighbor's pet suddenly disappears, and makes you more aware of the fact that small animals need to be kept indoors or on leashes.  Undecided

I enjoyed the conversation as well.  Smiley Regards!
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Re: A Tragic End
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2011, 06:12:25 AM »

Ron H. we may get alligators when it rains a lotbut they usually stay near a bigger creek next to a road.

Goldiegirl here when groups walk by the pond it is ocasonal for a cat or dog to disappears.

Oh wouldn't weather affect your pond: tornados, hurricanes, wildfires and floods.
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Re: A Tragic End
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 11:03:40 AM »

i no how you feel coz last night my mimi and tiki2 died DX
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2011, 07:24:50 PM »

Fantailer, that's awful, about the pets dissapearing. My cat's sister (who belonged to our neighbor) escaped and was never seen again - exept for a few tufts of fur and her collar, which was hanging from a tree branch. It was very, very horrible and hard on their whole family.  Sad And I'm sure natural disasters would have a negative impact on ponds as well. Glad we don't get many tornados here... Cheesy but fires are pretty out of control during the dry summer months.  Undecided

Littlefishy, sorry to hear about the two fish you lost! I'm sure you loved them very much. It's very hard to loose the pets we love.  Sad
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2011, 05:16:35 AM »

Wow thats creepy a cat just disappeering!
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2011, 06:38:03 AM »

Many of my cats went out and just never came back. Not sure what got them, maybe a lynx?
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2011, 03:15:20 PM »

That's too bad, Nossie.  Undecided It's very common for that to happen out here to cats. Mine got got chased up the side of the house all the way to the roof by a bear, who eventually gave up... Shocked
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2011, 08:05:06 AM »

Oh my o___o
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2011, 07:53:39 PM »

Far out, I cant believe the amount of diversity among the wildlife that we all have to contend with at one time or another, reading down the page it is quite a list... yes it is sad when we lose our pets, our first cat Bandit went out and never came back  Sad , I remember it was awful hard not knowing what happened to him... A Lynx Nossie, what a lovely creature they are... canibalistic as well... and Fantailer lets hope the Aligators STAY down the road by the bigger creek!!! And Goldiegirl, a bear chasing a cat up to the roof of your house, I have this mental image of the cat sitting up there tormenting the bear below... cheers all > Ron.
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2011, 08:59:56 PM »

Awwww, poor Bandit.  Sad Well maybe he was able to be rescued by another family? Still, that must have been awful. And though we don't have many lynxes, we do have bobcats.  Wink

Yes, well, my kitty was really the one being tormented...he had to use his claws to scale the wood siding, and when I looked out of the window afterwards there were tufts of hair clinging to the splinters of the wall. The neighbor's dogs are also a bit of a terror for him, considering they enjoy driving him up trees...it's a wonder he hasn't been gone long ago.  Undecided
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