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Nossie
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2012, 12:00:01 PM »

I grab glass jars for my painting, so far I've got a paprika jar and an Uncle Ben's Sweet and Sour jar xD I need more though because my fiance keeps making them so black around the edges with his thicker paints.. >>

Nice! Cheesy One of my conditioners has a measuring cap as well, but it's like 14 ml, and that's a pretty awkward size without any other markings, so I just prefer using these little medicine cups. Got a bag full of them xD
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2012, 12:52:42 PM »

While we're kind of on the topic, what do I look for in a water conditioner?
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2012, 02:24:39 PM »

Hi Everyone, I'm Debbie and I have 2 oranda's-1 that I've had for a couple of years and a recent addition. I started out with a 7 gallon hexagon Eclipse, progressed up to a 12 gallon acrylic Eclipse and yesterday I received a 29 gallon acrylic Sea Clear Junior Executive Kit (I'm really excited about the new aquarium!!) I have been doing my homework, (thanks to this forum and all the wonderful information) and plan on doing my new set up shopping tomorrow. First question-does anyone have this specific aquarium? I know every aquarium I have had has had a cover that "covers" the entire top of the aquarium. This aquarium however has me baffled. There is a huge slit down the center of the aquaurim top for adding your plants, fish, etc...and the hood, which houses the light goes into this slit. Then further towards the back there is another slit which will hold my pump (and here is where the "not sure" part comes in) there is a smaller hole to the left of the pump holder which I assume is for placing the fish food into. With all this being said, there is nothing to cover the small hole for the fish food or nothing to cover the empty space on the other side of the pump. Have I confused everyone yet? Isn't the WHOLE thing suppose to be covered so dust and particles aren't getting into the water. I mean, I can cut a small piece of card board or something to cover the exposed parts, or is this normal on a bigger tank? Also, they included a light (an aqua-glo aguarium T8 bulb 20 W) which states it's good for freshwater and planted aquariums. I want to try my luck with plants and will be getting the ones that don't require a lot of light. If it were you, would you get a stronger light-I can go up to 40 W. or just use this one for now? Thanks so much in advance for your help with this and it's nice meeting all of you. Have a fantastic day
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2012, 02:59:31 PM »

obsidianembrace: Just one that will remove any harmful substances from the tap water such as: Heavy metals, chlorine and chloramine etc. Smiley

orandagal: It doesn't sound strange at all to me, provided that I understood everything right. My tank has three out of four corners uncovered at the top for the filter hosing and one on the front corner for feeding. They're not any bigger than about 2 inches along either side from the corner Smiley However, if that isn't what you mean, please post some pictures of it maybe?

When it comes to the light, I'd try with the one you have! Most plants that suit goldfish keeping don't need that much light anyway, good ones to try are as follows: Java Fern, Anubias, Cryptocoryne and marimo moss balls Smiley
Here are a few pictures so you'll get an idea what you're looking for:

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Barter's Anubias:

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Dwarf Anubias:

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Marimo moss ball:

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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2012, 03:15:46 PM »

Thank you so much Nossie, I just wasn't sure if it was ok to have open slots on the top or not, but sounds like the bigger tanks have them, so I feel better about them being open and not covered. Thanks for the pictures of the plants also. I know some of them have to be tied to rocks, what type of line do you use to anchor them? I appreciate your help with this Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2012, 03:57:25 AM »

No problem! Smiley

Personally, I've just used a completely normal sewing thread, black, so it didn't really show against the wood at all. But many people use transparent fishing line, which is stronger Smiley Some netting may also work, but I haven't tried that, it was wrapped around the wood I bought from the pet store where they had already planted some things Cheesy
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2012, 10:06:18 PM »


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While we're kind of on the topic, what do I look for in a water conditioner?

After several years working aquarium stores and many years of keeping many different types of fish I prefer Seachen Prime.
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2012, 12:04:37 AM »

Well, I did my shopping today, got new gravel, some plants, decorations, chemicals, test kit and have the aquarium up and running. I'm impatient, but know I have to wait before adding my fish-hurry up and cycle (please)  Smiley I can't wait to see how my two fish will react to having so much more room. The filter was easy to put together and is very quiet, the light bulb works (yea) and hopefully the plants will survive. Will try to get some pictures once the fish are added and Nossie thanks again for your help. Have a great weekend everyone!
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2012, 05:01:32 AM »

You're welcome! Smiley
You have a nice weekend as well! Cheesy And keep us posted Smiley You could maybe make a separate thread or something where we can see the progress easier Smiley
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2012, 09:15:38 PM »

I had a super busy weekend and tomorrow isn't going to be any better...neither will tuesday. So I suppose wednesday is going to be my day to find snails and plants!

Tips to get healthy snails/plants?
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2012, 04:07:44 AM »

Try picking out the greenest plants and avoid those with brown/yellow leaves Smiley Also choose the ones with a nice growth, so for example, when choosing java ferns, take those with wider leaves.

When it comes to snails... any will do. But you should quarantine them for a little while, not with salt though Wink
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2012, 06:29:13 PM »

How about snails, plants, and two dwarf frogs in the 5? Would new goldfish be okay temporarily with the frogs?
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« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2012, 07:36:26 PM »

From what I have seen goldfish do just fine with frogs, but by 5 do you mean 5 gallon? Maybe I should read from the begining. Embarrassed
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2012, 04:14:12 AM »

I'm not entirely sure either, do you mean a 5 gallon?
If so, I wouldn't put anything there besides plants (possibly snails) until the goldfish move out to a bigger tank Smiley Then you can buy a few frogs Smiley
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2012, 10:15:10 AM »

Yeah it's a five gallon tank that I talked about in the beginning. I think I read that frogs need 1.5 gallons to themselves? I'll look that up again though.

So why not a couple little frogs in the 5 gallon?

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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2012, 12:36:29 PM »

Because you have goldfish there right now?

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Would new goldfish be okay temporarily with the frogs?

At least that's how I interpreted the question, you know if you can keep the frogs together with the goldfish in the 5 gallon for the time being. I honestly don't remember if you have the goldfish in the 5 or not, so I'm a tad confused :'D
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2012, 12:40:55 PM »

Right now, there are no goldfish in the 5 gallon. There's just rocks.

I'm intending to use the 5 gallon as a quarantine tank. So if I have frogs in there, can a new or ill goldfish go in there with them for a couple weeks and get along?
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« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2012, 02:37:22 PM »

frogs in a quarantine tank are a bad idea. The reason is that frogs are hyper sensitive to chemicals and medications. Something that you treat a sick gold fish with could kill a frog at even a minute dose.
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2012, 10:26:44 PM »

Hi All,
Just wanted to check in and let you know the tank seems to be cycling ok-still not sure what I'm doing, but I've been doing all the tests, adding the good bacteria (cycle) and when testing the Ph my level is around 8.2 I read there is some thing called API Down or API Proper 7.5 which will bring the PH level down. Have any of you used this, do you recommend I use this or should I give it some more time? The aquarium was set up last Friday. Nitrite was 0ppm, Nitrate was 0-5.00 ppm (which may go up and then drop back down) Amonia was 0-.25, that too may go up and then drop back down so not too worried about them, but the PH is high in my other aquarium too. I'm a bad fish person, never realizing that I should be doing all these tests, but my fish seem to be doing ok so I never gave it much thought until now. I really want to do well with this new tank and I want them to be happy in their new home. I was also doing some internet browsing comparing prices on the test kit, filters, etc...and wish I had known about the test kit, chemicals, and what not before I went on my big shopping spree, but it is what it is  Embarrassed Some of this stuff is alot cheaper getting it on line vs at the pet stores. I will be comparing prices a lot closer in the future when I have to start buying more supplies. Well, that's about it for now, and wishing you all a great week.
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2012, 04:06:02 AM »

obsidianembrace: I wouldn't do that. If you're going to have the goldfish there for quarantine first, don't have anything else there for now. 5 gallon is very, very small for a quarantine tank though, something along the lines of a 10 or 20 would be much better since the fish would have more room to swim, the filtration would be better and it'd be easier to keep good water quality and a stable temperature. If you don't have any fish at all in the new tank, don't bother quarantining, just let some fish in there for starters. When you have your first 2 (or so) fish, you can start quarantining any newcomers.

orandagal: I have told people on this forum so many times that goldfish do not care about the pH value as long as it's stable. A goldfish will be happy in water from 6.5-8.5 as long as it stays that way, you adding pH-modifiers will change that. It would make the goldfish uncomfortable because the pH would be changing everytime the water would! There are only a few fish that are actually sensitive to their water softness/hardness and goldfish are not related to those Grin So don't you worry, just keep cycling the tank and add a few of the fish once the nitrite is gone Smiley
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2012, 07:56:29 AM »

Hi Nossie,
Thanks for the info about the ph. Guess I missed your post on that, I'm still trying to catch up on all the articles. I'm getting anxious and can't wait to see how my fish will react to all that room. Will keep you updated and thanks again for all of your help  Smiley
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2012, 12:11:51 PM »

tip: an ordinary level teaspoon holds about 5mL
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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2012, 01:35:14 PM »

That's okay, I have pointed it out in several other topics where people have been concerned about the same thing Wink
I think it's a phase all of us go through... I did as well Tongue
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2012, 11:07:41 AM »

Okay, no frogs. I'm so impatient to get my large tank. Waiting sucks.
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2012, 01:25:16 PM »

Nossie, does this site not have a way of sending private messages or am I just missing it?
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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2012, 01:34:19 PM »

Dragonii, I think each persons account has to be set up for this. As a new member, I noticed if I click on (say your name) I can't see an email address, but if I click on mine, my email address shows up. I click on my personal messages (on left side of screen) and set it up where (I think) I can receive personal messages-someone will have to send me something to see if this works Smiley I wondered the same thing after you mentioned it. Let's see what happens Smiley
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« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2012, 03:30:54 PM »

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Dragonii, I think each persons account has to be set up for this. As a new member, I noticed if I click on (say your name) I can't see an email address, but if I click on mine, my email address shows up. I click on my personal messages (on left side of screen) and set it up where (I think) I can receive personal messages-someone will have to send me something to see if this works Smiley I wondered the same thing after you mentioned it. Let's see what happens Smiley


I click on your name and this is what I get. No place to send personal messages.
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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2012, 11:11:06 PM »

Hum, maybe it's not possible to post a private message on this site. I know other forums have that capability-does anyone else out there know if this is possible or not, and if so, how do you post a pm to another on this forum. Thanks for your help in advance  Smiley
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2012, 11:34:59 PM »

Hi All, Tomorrow (Friday) marks one week of cycling the new tank and so far things seem to be going well. Plants are still alive, fish are getting anxious for their new home, (me too) water looks so nice and clear. I have to admit, I'm a little OCD when it comes to some things. I love it when the stores have the 3 prong folders on sale for 15 cents apiece. I normally buy 12 of them to use for various things. One of the things I have started doing which helps me is reading the articles on here, copying and then printing the ones that will help me and then putting them in my folder to fall back on if I need help. I also printed out a weekly calendar to keep up with my chemical level tests so I can write the results down, and left a space for notes like water changes, when I started this project, etc...yes, just a little ocd but this helps me a lot. So far PH is 8.2, Ammonia is 0.25, Nitrites are 0-0.25 and Nitrate is 5.0 so I feel like we are finally starting to get somewhere. I've been window shopping and want to get somemore plants and maybe a bubbler. I like the line that runs along the back under the gravel, I saw it in a movie once and thought it was really cool with the bubbles running up the back, but we shall see. Just pricing right now more than anything. Well, just wanted to check in and wish everyone a good upcoming weekend.
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Re: New Tanks
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2012, 03:12:02 AM »

Dragonii: We could before, but the option was removed. I believe some members were bad-mouthing other members and even the admins over the messages :/ Suppose we'll have to make do with e-mails this time around Cheesy

orandagal: It's great that you're keeping notes! That way you'll never have to sit around and guess the water quality last week Wink
And it seems to be going forward, the ammonia is still pretty high, but the nitrites are showing which is a plus Smiley
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