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Nossie
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2012, 04:48:23 AM »

Hehe Grin

I just realized something *_* You said your filter is noisy? what kind of noisy? The pumps will usually be louder if there's air trapped inside. I usually try getting all the air out before I plug it to the wall, and if it make some noise then, I tilt it a little to make sure the last bubbles get out Smiley
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2012, 01:09:28 PM »

It's a rattle sound.  I've tried moving around the filter parts.  No change in the rattle.  I believe it's coming from the motor.  How do I rule out air bubbles?  I followed the dirrections in setting it up.  I did notice - it takes a lot of water to get the filter running after being unplugged.  Takes about 10 cups of water to get it going.  Is that normal?

Thanks.
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2012, 01:13:26 PM »

I found when air bubbles were in my filter, I would often hear/see air and bubbles rushing out of the outlet pipe.
I've never had rattling though? Have you tried contacting the company?

As for the water, I think it depends on the type of filter?
My external filter has to be filled about 3/4 of the way full (with baskets/media already in) for it to be able to work.
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2012, 02:38:14 PM »

I don't ever put water into my filter before I connect it to the tank, then I suck the outlet hose a little to get the water running on its own and then it can be left to fill itself up Smiley Of course, take care not to swallow any water *_*
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2012, 08:23:37 PM »

There is a pocket of air in the u bend part of the intake tube....but the noise is coming from the motor part.  Now that I have the air bubble thing going....the bubbles of air cover the up noise. 

Once I get it on the stand I'll see if being on the window shelve is the problem.  Maybe when everything is set up right it won't be a problem.

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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2012, 02:18:34 PM »

Just wanted to post that my Fluval is completely silent.  After about 2 weeks of running and making a ton of noise...it suddenly went quiet.  The water flow on it is amazing.  Much better then the one that came with the tank.

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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2012, 05:44:55 AM »

So the air probably went out of it finally Smiley Great! Cheesy
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2012, 12:06:05 PM »

Perhaps it's like the old-time cars that needed their engines "running in" Wink
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2012, 10:11:51 PM »

Ha ha. Thank goodness something on my tank is functioning well Wink
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2012, 08:45:32 PM »

Well folks its officially ......I have MTS. I bought a second hand 50 gallon tank with stand, canister filter (not sure how well it works), lights and air pump. The stand needs to be painted and tank needs work -serious cleaning and testing for leaks. All for $100. The tank is a long one...48 inches.  I figured with a bit of work I could get it nice. 

Bertie is growing huge.  He's about 3.5 long and completely round.  I think he swallowed a marble.  I have a feeling he will be out of the 16 gallon in a cople of months. Enough time to work on the used one...get it nice and cycle it. 

Question: is it hard to reseal a tank?  What are your recommendations to get it clean? How do I test a canister filter? I have no directions for it.

You folks are a bad influence on this newbie Wink
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2012, 05:11:48 AM »

For a second when you said MTS I immediately thought you'd meant you'd brought - Malaysian Trumpet Snails! Haha oops...
Sounds like a wicked tank, 48 inches is like 4 foot? The fish will enjoy that Grin

As for cleaning it, just warm water and a sponge, use an old credit card or something similar if there's any algae.
My dad's tank was a quite messy, complete with black gunk at the bottom and algae all over the glass, so warm water and a bit of elbow grease had it all nice and shiny  Grin
I avoided using cleaning products, because if any residue is left behind that you don't notice, it'll be in the water when you re-fill the tank, which can affect fish. I'm sure there are things you can use safely in the tank if you needed to, but I found I didn't need anything.

As for testing the canister... do you know what brand it is? If you type the model number/brand along with the word 'instructions' or 'manual' into google sometimes you can find digital copies of the manual online.

Not too sure on re-sealing a tank, I'm sure one of the others will be able to help you, if you do have any leaks Smiley
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2012, 07:04:07 AM »

cleaning tank: don't use detergents only natural products such as vinegar for the grotty bits; rinse well afrerwards

you can buy silicone re-sealant at the pet store........apply as you would when sealing your bath !

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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2012, 08:58:39 PM »

Thanks folks:)

Yes it's 4 feet long Grin. One of the reasons I snapped it up. Bertie will love swimming up and down. Its long but not very wide or high. But after listening to every one I thought length was the most important.

Thanks for the video scrivens.

The canister is a Rena make. I haven't figured out the model yet. The thing is huge Huh  I don't know how I can hide it from view.

So Skwishee......

I went to the pet store with the indoor pond and got the scoop.  I have a feeling you might already know this info but here it goes.....

The tank is made from railroad ties (I'm hoping this is also a british term). Railroad ties are strips of heavy duty wood mostly used in gardens and pressure treated.  The owner had someone stack the planks and drill holes through each plank end. Then a steel rod was placed through the holes and the rod ends secured with nut/bolt. The corners are braided together with the connecting walls (sort of like one plank is short and the opposite side is long. Next plank is short then long).  Then another hole is drilled thru the planks and secured with a steel rod. Finally it's lined with plastic pond liner.

Hes had the pond for 35 years. He's changed the pond liner several times over the years.  The pond is 200 gallons.  Huh

I have pics though they didn't one out very well. But if you want to see them I will post.

I mentioned about your situation. He recommended a plastic horse troth.  Cheap easy. And can be set up in a house and is easy to move when you move. 

So that's the scoop. I hope it provides some ideas for lucky.

I need a small rant. I dislike my fluval filter. It's giving me problems again. Lips sealed. I guess I need to take it apart and clean it AGAIN.  Ugh.  Goldfish really do make a big mess. Poop makers=dirty filter.
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2012, 03:16:06 AM »

Ohhh he must have built it with rail sleepers, yes that is one way to build a pond Smiley
Sadly not a very moveable design! Plastic Horse Troth is an interesting suggestion though, thanks! Grin

As for the Rena filter.... It might be one of the Xp range? There is the Xp1, 2, 3 and 4. So I think the number equates to how many trays you have in the filter... at least that's the impression I get judging from photo's.

So this one is the Rena Xp4 -
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Whereas this one is the Rena Xp3-
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It could also possibly be the Rena Nexx-
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Any of those look like it?
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2012, 03:49:14 AM »

Fluval Filters can be little devils to get running right; But when they do run I find they are no bother

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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2012, 08:29:57 AM »

I finally checked out the canister it's the xp3. It needs a serious scrubbing. Do you think with my fluval that the canister will be enough filtration? 

I spent 1 hour scrubbing the tank...it smelled like dead fish.  Overall it cleaned up nice.  Grin

Next up for cleaning is the stand.  It's rough wood...needs to be sanded and then painted. That will keep me busy.

I'm getting excited about getting it set up.  I think Bertie will be happy as plum in it Grin

My fluval is not working Angry. It only pumps at the highest setting.  I called customer service and they think my impiler is faulty. So a new one on the way. I see why people have multiple filteration.
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2012, 10:36:40 AM »

If the combined strength of the filters stay around 10 times tank size, it'll be fine. It can be a little bit less too as long as you don't overstock Smiley
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2012, 01:19:42 PM »

Okay so the tank is... 50 gallons - 230 litres.

Rena XP3 = 1350 litres per hour.... so that filter alone is half way there, with the fluval it should be plenty Smiley
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2012, 09:39:33 AM »

Thanks for the feed back Skwishee.

I cleaned the filter this past weekend. I need to test it. So two questions:

Should I replace the intake/outtake rubber tubing?  I can't really clean it very well. I priced the tubes out and it's a bit of money to buy them. The tubes look brown from waste.  Could that transfer diseases?

I priced out Rena filter filler -the sponges mainly. Since its so big it takes huge sponges and many sponges (I believe 7 Shocked).
Is there anything I can buy in bulk? I noticed some people use pillow stuffing sold at Walmart. But I'm cautious as who know what chemicals are in it.  Any suggestions?
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2012, 02:49:04 PM »

You can easily buy a brush designed to clean out filter tubing, mine cost like 4 and it works really well Smiley They look much like this:
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Some people use pot scrubbers, ceramic balls and the like as filter media. You can buy the filter sponges in packages in pet shops if you look around. How many sponges fit in the filter right now? Obviously you don't need to get any more than that... Tongue
Not to mention that you shouldn't/don't need to exchange filter media often at all, and when you do you can swap only half at a time. I've had the same filter media for more than a year now, and unless it gets soggy I don't need to switch it since I rinse it in tank water every time I maintain the filters.
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2012, 03:21:32 PM »

Alright I'll be looking for that brush....perfect Cheesy

I guess I'm still learning. Ok so filter media should last longer than I thought.  I did find some bulk aquarium sponges at the store today, so I'm going to give that a try.  Worse case I buy the name brand stuff.  Just want berie to be ok. 

My next big test is filling the tank and looking for leaks. It's staying outside for that one.
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2012, 02:51:06 PM »

I need one of those brushes, the inside of my tubes are brown from algae growth Shocked

Good luck with testing the tank Saja!  Grin
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Re: Newbie looking for tank advice
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2012, 09:32:10 PM »

I'll use the scrubbers to clean my gravel vacum!
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