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April
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Re: Now I Need Help Please!
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2010, 01:51:16 AM »

Indeed it could be the swim bladder out of whack. Fishfriend, I had this happen to my goldfish and his balance was restored. However, I had to repeat treatment for several days before reintroducing soaked sinking pellets NOT FLAKES. Because the flakes sit on the surface each time he would take in more air and throw everything out of balance again. It is different for each fish but I didn't starve mine, I just started feeding thawed frozen peas ONLY (shell removed with the split pieces squished in between your fingers) at every feeding. Approx. 2 -3 peas 2 times throughout the day and evening.

Please check out the first thread under name 'FOR ALL NEWBIES, please read before you ask for help' and post back with all the results of your water conditions, how long you've had your tank up and running and so on. In order to offer most effective advice, we need to know these numbers. Thanks and welcome to the forum Smiley
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Re: Now I Need Help Please!
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2010, 04:45:12 AM »

Minde: So do I Smiley Sometimes it's plain annoying thinking that "IF I ONLY HAD THAT KIND OF MEDICINE I MIGHT HAVE HELPED!! Angry" Tongue But really, it's all a learning experience in the end, not to mention that NOW, I have that kind of medicine, and NOW I know how to deal with it all if anything similar would happen to me again! In other words, I do value all the things. Nothing happens without some kind of reason or "useful" consequence. (Argh, I really do need another goldfish setup... I need to find more orandas D8)

fishfriend: I agree with previous posters Smiley But I'd like to add, that if he's been like this for long, you may also want to buy some Epsom salt, (aka magnesium sulfate) it can be bought in the pharmacy and is relatively cheap (I got a kilogram for 15). You then dose this at a rate of 1/4 teaspoon per gallon (right, Minde??) to make it spread better in the tank, I'd dissolve the correct amount of salt in a small cup/bucket of tank water and pour it in close to the filter outtake Smiley
I would recommend a set of water tests (pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate) followed by a 50-70% water change before you add the salt.
Just in case, it may be an idea not to feed your fish for a day or two before you start giving them defrosted, shelled peas, as described Smiley I would like to know what you usually feed your fish? If it's only flakes, stop it. Buy some good quality staple pellet instead, these fish are so big that the flakes are just annoying for them to eat anyway, they swallow too much air Smiley Supplement this diet with live foods, such as frozen blood worms/shrimp, or freeze-dried tubifex, shrimp, blood worms... and add some veggies to their diet a few times a week Smiley They love peas and zucchini for example! Cheesy You can also try lettuce and paprika Smiley
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Re: Now I Need Help Please!
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2010, 09:04:44 AM »

Nossie, Yes, 1/4 tsp of epsoms salts per gallon of water...bring temp of water up to 80F and drop pieces of epsoms salts in front of the fish to see if you can get him to eat a piece. Smiley
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE ON CALI
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2010, 09:12:43 AM »

Cali is still swimming in there! Cheesy
All redness and red streaks are gone from her body and fins!
I do a water change today and am using something different, a water condtioner that has methylene blue in it.
Her fins are still shredded terribly.
I'm going to repeat the antibiotic water treatment and continue with the antibiotic fish food 2 X's a day and then the Aqueon granules mixed into Tetracycline HCL 1X's a day.
I will also add another dose of The Kordon fish Protect with the echineacea and Vit B 12 in it.
I decided to eliminate the salt since the first ingredient in the water condtioner and the water treat antibiotics is sodium chloride. Smiley
At the end of this week if Cali is still swimming I will post new pictures of her.
She eats like a horse!  And I think she has grown in just the few days I've had her! Smiley
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2010, 04:36:47 PM »

I'm so happy for you an Cali!! Smiley She's so cute! <3
And even though her fins are broken, she does look quite energetic somehow Smiley
I'm getting a very good feeling about this! Cheesy And you'll have your little Calico oranda Smiley
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2010, 05:18:21 PM »

Minde, I am so positive about Cali, too. Eating like a horse, lol is she chasing the jockey too?
This is a very good sign. It will take a while for her fins to grow back I think... (took about 2 months for Barbies fins to grow back)
 Cheesy All the best my Fishyfriend  Wink
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2010, 05:20:32 PM »

I love Cali's big eyes!
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2010, 05:45:19 PM »

Thanks you guys!! Smiley
It's nice to have supportive fishy friends! Wink
I'm hoping that Cali continues to improve each day!
I checked the water parameters and they were perfect before I did the water change.  So! that means the nitrogen cycle hasn't been compromised by the treatment I've been doing! YAY! Cheesy
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2010, 07:47:24 PM »

So true from what others have said. You get your little calico oranda Minde! Cheesy and she looks like such a sweetheart, what with her big eyes. She knows theres someone outside her tank who loves her very very much..

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when you're done with her, can I borrow her? forever? XD She's so cute... makes my heart melt. Cheesy:D
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2010, 08:07:41 PM »

Awww...Kat, what a very nice thng to say! Smiley

*KARMA* FOR EVERYONE!!!  Cheesy
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2010, 08:47:38 PM »

>.> is that a yes to the borrowing? XD

You're such a good fish mommy... XD
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2010, 05:03:32 AM »

She's looking better already Smiley I have reasons to believe Cali is the luckiest and also the happiest goldfish in the world  Cheesy It makes me extremely happy to see how good she is doing!
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2010, 08:02:32 AM »

awww.....thanks Andrea.....that is so nice to say but I also feel lucky to have found her! Smiley
The only calico in the shop and she had to be so sick!  I know if I hadn't taken her home she probably would have been dead by the end of the day.    I called the corporate office and complained and someone did call me back yesterday evening!  They said they were going to get together with their veterinarians and decide on a treatment plan for all their tanks!  I hope they do it now before too many more fish have to suffer! Sad
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2010, 08:10:17 AM »

Yay! Karma for you Mindemae! Grin
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2010, 08:45:32 AM »

Awww....thanks Fantailer! Smiley
Karma for you too for being so nice! Wink
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2010, 10:53:02 AM »

You truly are a healer Minde, your little baby Cali is so precious and such a gentle little soul ♥ Bravo on your continued success, the love and devotion you have shown her is so beautiful, *sniff another tear of joy for you and Cali.
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2010, 11:05:55 AM »

April,
Thank you so much! Smiley  You are a kind soul too taking such good care of Mr. tailer and taking him in and under your wing! Smiley
*KARMA* RIGHT BACK AT YOU! Wink
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2010, 11:43:45 AM »

I'm so glad that you managed to reach some sort of results with those shop-people! Smiley Hopefully they'll have healthier fish from now on Smiley Congrats Wink

How is her dorsal fin? Is it starting to grow together again? Smiley
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2010, 12:21:56 PM »

The frayed part totally is gone. Sad
But the split part grew together.
She has like 3/4's of her dorsal fin and missing 1/4
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2010, 01:22:58 PM »

Mindemae: You're doing a great job with Cali. Smiley
I'm very sure that she'll be a happy and healthy Cali under your care. Cheesy

*I'll dedicate the song "Bette Davis Eyes" to Cali.* Grin
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2010, 02:52:45 PM »

Teehee PappyFish, that's cute "Bette Davis Eyes" Cheesy
Yeah she does have big eyes! Wink
Maybe when she grows bigger her eyes won't seem so big!! Smiley
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2010, 03:13:28 PM »

Well, on Orandas with little developed headgrowth, the eyes may appear slightly protruding Smiley

Hope that dorsal fin grows back! Shocked
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2010, 03:25:16 PM »

well she does have some wen growth on the top of her head already! Smiley
She is so tiny, so maybe she will grow bigger and her wen too!
Then her eyes won't look so big! Cheesy
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2010, 03:33:21 PM »

Berry doesn't have much of headgrowth around her eyes, so they look pretty big and crazy actually xD It's really cute, but sometimes is looks like she's staring at you VERY, VERY intensely Wink
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2010, 03:52:39 PM »

LOL! That's funny! and cute!!
Well Cali may have the same features as she does have a little fibrous hat on her head. Smiley
What I do like about her is she has such bluish undertones instead of stark white matt coloring.
She has alot of bluish grey spots but only two large orange red, one on her head!
I love she has black spots on the orange red and all over.  She sure is specled, even her poor chewed up tail is speckled nicely whats left of it.
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2010, 05:26:31 PM »

Aww Minde, Karma for you, just read the latest posts. Good on you getting on to those people, lets hope they really do sth about it.

Calli will be fine, I am so positive about it, she's a sweet little fishie and I love her speckles, maybe you call her "Speckles", LOL But I love "CALLI" too
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2010, 05:58:06 PM »

Under your care, Minde, Cali will make a full recovery. Post pics more often XD I wanna see more of this little miracle
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2010, 09:15:57 AM »

That's the beautiful thing that separates Calicos from tri-colored goldies Smiley I love the soft blue color of the skin on calico goldfish! They sometimes look slightly pink too Smiley And when you look close, you can almost see how the spots are "layered" on the lower layers of skin Smiley Like, some spots are more transparent than others Cheesy
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2010, 11:47:35 AM »

Ok Kat,
Here are a couple more pictures of Cali!
I am happy to announce that I see dorsal fin re-growth, (just a stump) but definately re-growth!
And much improvement on the tail fins and re-growth starting there too! YAY! Cheesy
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Re: Now I Need Help Please! UPDATE!
« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2010, 11:52:08 AM »

I was comparing the first photos with these, and... her fins do look better Smiley I think you actually got yourself a little Calico oranda Smiley
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