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Hanna
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RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« on: October 24, 2010, 05:47:48 AM »

Just want everybody to know what I learned today and it sounds so logical.

If your pH is lower, lets say neutral or close to neutral ( 7.0  / 7.2 ) Ammonia ( if present ) is less toxic due to less Hydrogen ions.
So basically you are able to control Ammonia with pH too    Shocked
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Re: RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2010, 10:15:24 AM »

Ammonia is more toxic in alkaline water.  As the pH drops below 7.0, toxic ammonia NH3 begins to convert to less toxic ammonia NH4++ . So a higher pH can be more dangerous, however....Biological filtration fails when pH drops below 6.4.  When this happens, ammonia builds up. Fortunately, since the ph is low it is less toxic.  This is dangerous because a sudden upward shift in pH, such as from a long overdue water change, will convert the ammonia into highly toxic ammonia!!! That is why regular water changes are so important and checking your pH before a water change is so important too. Smiley
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Re: RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2010, 11:14:53 AM »

One more thing I might add, you don't want to necessarily try and control ammonia with lowering your pH because flucuating pH is very stressful and lethal to fish too. Smiley
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Re: RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 04:41:26 PM »

Very good answer Minde! Grin

No geez, never RE ADJUST pH but what I meant to try and keep it about 7.2 or neutral.
As I realized on this forum ther are pH s around 7.8 etc as Goldfish can take a wider range of pH. I always mentioned it is stressful if pH goes up and down like a Yoyo. This is to be avoided.

With this thread I only want to explain that it is better to have a pH neutral to 7.2. This is another reason I use ph neutralizer blocks.

Of course this should NEVER replace the regular waterchanges
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Re: RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 05:27:31 PM »

"So basically you are able to control Ammonia with pH too"
Well I just thought I would clarify that in case any newbies to goldfish keeping read that and misunderstood! Wink
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Re: RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 03:44:23 AM »

It's the same with other nitrogens in the tank actually! The pH usually drops when the nitrites/nitrates get higher (I have experienced the same myself once :C). Which is why it usually decreases slightly during the nights while the plants aren't using as much nitrate. It's pretty funny how everything hangs together c:
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Re: RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 05:10:38 AM »

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"So basically you are able to control Ammonia with pH too"
Well I just thought I would clarify that in case any newbies to goldfish keeping read that and misunderstood! Wink

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It's the same with other nitrogens in the tank actually! The pH usually drops when the nitrites/nitrates get higher (I have experienced the same myself once :C). Which is why it usually decreases slightly during the nights while the plants aren't using as much nitrate. It's pretty funny how everything hangs together c:

Yes that is right, sure we dunno want to confuse anybody.

Just to confirm:

Yes you can controll Ammonia with pH.
Never miss your regular waterchange as a lower pH (7.0 - 7.2 ) DOES NOT REPLACE the very important waterchanges.

I agree... it is so interesting discovering how everything works together, like all those little wheels in a mechanical watch / clock.
AMAZING, INTERESTING, FASCINATING  Wink  Shocked
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Re: RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2010, 09:30:14 AM »

Yes very interesting, I agree.  We have built an eco system in our fishes tanks and we are in charge of maintaining it to sustain life! Smiley
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Re: RELATION: Ammonia - pH
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2010, 05:32:07 AM »

You are so right there !
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