Oh cool, sounds like a good deal Will you be helping them with the regular maintenance like cleaning filters/partial water change, or will they take care of that too?

if i remember i'll take pics of them in there new home when I put them in

my tank is 60l and a 20l the 60l has 4 shubunkins in which are going in the pond and the 20l has 1 ryukin as 1 died suddenly, but because I dont want the fish to be lonley in the 60l by itself am going to get it another ryukin friend when the bunkins leave.

Cambonjr, 60 litres isn't big enough for two fancy goldfish I'm afraid.
You need at least 80 - 100 litres for the first fish and then an additional 40 litres for each fish you add.

So for two fancy goldfish, you'd need a minimum of 120 litres.

You could always re-home the Ryukin and set up your 60 litre as a tropical tank, it'd be ideal for some of the smaller tropical species. Plus that way you could have more than just 2 fish in the tank.

right ffs 60l is ample for these fish and they are getting a better home with me than going in to some kids 10l tank where they will get no water changes ever and live in horrible conditions for there short lives,  and the fact that even though I have 4 shubunkins in my 60l and the water results are all 0ppm is pretty good I think as I do 20% every 2 days cause I enjoy looking after my fish and keeping there conditions perfect, also I do not have room our the funds for a bigger tank, atleast with me although there tank may be abit smaller they are going to live alot longer than as I already stated with some little kid, so stop raining on peoples parade with they need this much water and your tank is to small as 99% of the time these fish would be going to shit homes. as years ago before I knew anything about fish I was one of those kids who had a fish in a 10l tank that did not even have a filter and somehow it managed to live for 7 years. sorry about the rant but it is just annoying, and I know you guys know some stuff and have amazing setups and i will have a big tank in a year our 2, and you know your selfs that 99% of people who buy fish have no idea about the fish they are buying right I could go on but am tired and its been nice here and I have learned abit and thanks for that but sorry again and mean no offence to you guys and gals but goodbye

Cambonjr, you are right, goldfish are severely mistreated, but you cannot say 'the fish would be worse off over there' to try and justify your own mistreatment. As for goldfish living a long life in unsuitable conditions, that fish was surviving, not thriving. Just because one fish managed to survive in unsuitable conditions for so long, does not mean all goldfish should be kept like that, or kept in small aquaria.

Fancy goldfish minimum stocking is 20 gallons/80 litres for the first fish and 10 gallons/40 litres for each additional fish.
Goldfish grow to massive proportions, just look at Scriven's photo album, his ryukin is absolutely massive.
60L will be okay as a temporary set up, but the fish will out grow it and need a bigger tank eventually.

I know it's frustrating to hear, I have my common goldfish in a 100 litre tank or so by herself, because adding another fish in there would believe it or not, over stock the tank. As Lucky will still need to be moved on to to a bigger tank or pond later. It is hard to believe when I sit here and look at a 3-4 inch fish! But she is still young and hopefully will grow to a beautiful size -that is unless keeping her in the smaller tank has stunted her- But I know it's what she needs to have the best fishy life possible, I don't know if I can afford a bigger tank or manage a pond, which is why I may have to re-home her sooner or later. I don't really want too, but if it's the best thing for her, then I'll do it.

Baby Ryukin

well just though i'd let you know that I found a new pond for my shubunkins which is 400'000 gallons which is owned by an aquatics store owner and they will be going in there tomorrow as I dropped them of at his shop today which also took the ryukin, here is the pond.

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its already set up for tropical and have 7 neon tetras in there bag sitting in the tank waiting to be released soon, as I went to the shop earlier and got reccomended these so gonna wait 2 week before I get maybe some guppys our sumic our a cory to join them.

Ah wicked ^_^

Just a bit of info, I apologise if I'm repeating info you already know, but;
Guppies being live bearers, will breed like rabbits, so if you chose those, you'd need to be able to take the juveniles somewhere, or buy guppies of one gender. They need to be kept in shoals I believe, so you'd probably need 6.
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Corydora's species, have many different variations, you'd possibly want one of the smaller types looking around Pygmy Cory grow to 3cm and Pepper/Sterbai/Bronze varieties grow to 7cm. You also need to keep cory's in groups of 6, so keep that in mind
Cory's also need soft substrate because of their barbels.
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Just be careful not to over stock So I would imagine you could pick either the cory or guppies? Possibly put all the details into the aq advisor and see what it say's? I'm not too sure on stocking tropical tanks!

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Dwarf gouramis are a good choice for a community tank! So are honey gouramis, similar color but they grow a little bit bigger
Notice that you need to calculate 2 liters of water for every 1cm of adult fish body when you stock your tank (or 1 gallon/inch)

not gonna be getting corys now as they need sand and I have gravel, and yeah thats what I was told 1cm of fish to every litre of water as when I put a brisslenose pleco in with just the tetras it said it would grow to big for my tank I just need to get another filter if I want any more fish after the gouramis even though my filter had cycled in month with the 4 shubunkins in which were messy as **** think it was down to the fact that i have filled the back up with 2 layers of filter wool to allow more bacteria to grow but i get my gouramis some time in the next week our 2 just cause the tank looks empty with 7 tiny fish inand any one had experience with gouramis befrore? as was thinking of getting a male and a female but read that the male might attack the female so would I be better of with 2 females as I'll just ask the shop owner next time am in what he thinks.

i was looking at them but on the advisor it says its not suitable for my tank as it may eventually outgrow my tank space at 10.2cm but i shall ask in the shop as just gonna get a male and female gourami and plant my tank abit more to help the female hide abit more for if the male gets aggresive and leave it for a few weeks to see if how my filter get on the maybe get one of those plecos to complete my tank.

yes but the gouramis only grow to 5cm each where as th plec can grow to 13cm, either way gonna get some bogwood and modify it to stick to the glass so i can easily clean underneath it and then get 2 gouramis next friday and the plec 2 weeks after that

I have a three-spot gourami in the community tank at my parents' place, he's really peaceful and nice to the fish once he gets used to them. Before he was a little aggressive to new-comers but we did the separation treatment on him and he's learned to behave. Of course, three-spot gouramis are more aggressive than many other kinds.

You need to have a heater, and if you want to keep neon tetras successfully, you need bogwood and blackwater treatment to make the water soft and acidic to meet their requirements.