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Summer Time
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parasites and flashing
« on: February 10, 2011, 09:56:20 AM »

Hi. Nice to see everyone back.

My shubunkin just went thru a bout of parasites. The water quality has been good, I think it was from when I overfed him frozen brine shrimp.

I treated with meds and he's more sociable again, not hiding as much as he was, and just more active. My question is - he still flashes once in a while. The meds say that I can run thru another treatment one more time, so I'm wondering if I should, or should I wait to see if the flashing stops??

The meds I used were Maracide and Maracyn Two, and by the way, they didn't harm the biological filter. There was one day where only half a dose of Maracide was used, due to the fact that I was out of town.

I can post test reading later if needed. I know ammonia and nitrites are 0, and nitrates always under 10. Can't remember the others, but they're in the good range and where they always are.

Thanks for any advice.
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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 09:57:40 AM »

One more thing, he's still in the 10 gal tank.
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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 10:02:07 AM »

Also he developed a little fin ans tail damage, probably from a secondary bacterial infection. It's not real bad.
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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2011, 10:10:42 AM »

Just a quick update:

He's  doing very well and full of energy like his usual self.  I don't think he'll be needing any more treatments.  His tail and fins are better too but I will still keep a close eye on it.

One more thing to note for anyone who is still learning, I put in a total of 1.5 teaspoons of aquarium salt during the medication phase, on about days 3 & 4.

And after I was done medicating, I did a 40% water change. 
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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 04:19:19 AM »

Did you put in carbon in the filter when you were done treating as well? It's not healthy for the fish to be over-exposed to treatment Smiley
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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 08:15:43 AM »

No, I was waiting to make sure I didn't have to treat again.  I thought the meds became inactive after 24-48 hours, but with your comment, I guess they don't.

He started a lot of flashing and twitching again last night, so I'm running thru another treatment.  The meds say I can repeat it one time.  I added a heater this time to slowly slowly slowly raise the temp.  I don't know how high to go.

The water test results haven't changed, still 0 ammonia and nitrites, nitrates about 8.

I know I'm on the right track because of his improvement a couple days ago, but some of those crummy parasites must have survived.

He still looks really good, but he sits still a lot and twitches, and the flashing.  He continues to eat well and dorsal fin remains erect.  I'm trying to do everything right, and stay on top of this before it really hurts him.  And I need to do it right this time, since I don't think I can run thru another treatment after this one.




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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 09:17:56 PM »

Sounds like he definitely still has parasites. First off I think you should definitely identify which type they have, different parasites need to be treated differently. So do some research, post some photos and hopefully we can all help Smiley It sounds like the medication you used did not work and I would not use it again, why bother if it didn't work in the first place?? (well it semi worked but I would switch if I was you). Have you got him by his self? As parasites spread very easily.

Keep and eye on water quality and also add some aquarium salt to your tank.
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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 09:19:17 PM »

When I'm done with this medication treatment, which the last dose will be Tuesday, is it ok to leave him in the same tank that I'm treating in (which is his normal home)?

Or is it better to move him to another tank?  I'm wondering if any of you have done this.  What I'm thinking is, just in case any parasite eggs survived this treatment, he would be in a different tank and safe from them.  Then after their incubation period, I could move him back because it would be safer.

Wondering what you guys think, or is that over-kill?  Am I thinking too much??
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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2011, 09:28:30 PM »

I was typing as your post came thru.  Smiley

When I read thru the Mardel medicine Disease Guide, all the parasite problems have the same solution:  Maracide + Maracyn Two, that's why I didn't diagnose the exact parasite and I don't know how to.  I'll take a picture in a while and post it so you can see him.  He's calico in color, and sometimes his dark areas seem darker since this problem started, but I don't know if that's my imagination.

I think maybe it didn't work the first time because on day 3, only 1/2 dose was administered.  This is because I was out of town and my neighbor put it in for me.  It should have really been put in the tank at 5:00 p.m. but she wasn't available so she came and did it at noon.  Since that was a few hours early, I told her to do 1/2 dose because I didn't want to overdose him.  I don't know what to do in those situations, so I guessed and did what I thought was best.

He is by himself.  I have a new 75 gallon tank that I'm cycling, but no fish in there yet.  He will be moved there when it's ready.

I put in 1 teaspoon of salt today, and am keeping an eye on the water parameters, which haven't changed, which is good.  I also raised the temp from about 71 to 74, which feels warm compared to what it was.  Smiley

Thanks for your advice.

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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2011, 10:38:42 PM »

There is also plenty of good articles on the internet about different fish parasites so have a look around  Smiley I must admit I really don't know much about parasites so I may not be able to diagnosis what sort of a parasite it is, and not many people seem to come here anymore so it may be best if you try to work it out.

I just know that anchor worms have to be physically removed aswell as being treated and you have to use prazi (I think) on flukes and so on. There is no one parasite medication that will work for every parasite. If it is internal it is also different if it was external.

You could also join the GAB goldfish forum and post photos and information, they seem to know alot about parasites. I am on there Smiley
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Re: parasites and flashing
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 02:49:45 AM »

Ok, thank you.  I'll read up on it more too.
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