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Fishy Jeff
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Natural Pond
« on: August 24, 2011, 10:37:18 PM »

  I've put in a small pond of about 500 gallons. It's in a  shady spot with anarachis and a water lily.  About 2' at it's deepest (I'm in Atlanta) and a lot of perimeter and surface area for that volume. Water is just a little murky and you can't see into the depths, but the shallows are clear. I brought over some old pond water, I doubt it was missing any bacteria as it had a huge leaf litter load!

4 small (3" or so)  common goldfish (that lived in that pond water) and a shubunkin (that fish is quick, not that the others are slackers). I'm looking for a yellow comet.

No filter yet, I do spray about half the day to add air, and it looks great! Leaf net overhead  and I pull out the stray junk.

As near as I can tell the fish are quite happy and active. It's only been about a month but they look a lot bigger.

So, I want these to be working fish, so to speak, I want them to live as they might and forage as they normally would.

I'm thinking for the size and number of fish that I won't need filtration yet.

Does this seem about right? 6 goldfish?

What about frogs? I have some living nearby in some rough water that I want to drain. Can a working goldfish pond take in some frogs or would they be trouble?

(early pond pic attached) Sitting out by the pond has been a delight.

  Jeff
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fantailer
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Re: Natural Pond
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 05:39:19 PM »

Wow great pond!! Smiley
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Nossie
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Re: Natural Pond
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 06:52:09 AM »

Think one goldfish per 20 gallons in the pond, if you're not intending to ever put a filter in it... consider keeping far less fish there.

A filter is top priority next to the correct sized tank/pond Smiley
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Fishy Jeff
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Re: Natural Pond
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2011, 08:42:53 AM »

  With one fish per 20 gallons that would give me 25 fish. I'm thinking way under that number, of around 6, with 5 current. I had seen numbers of around 50 gallons/fish filtered and 100 gallons/fish unfiltered.

I've looked at the Skippy Filter:

well, you'll have to Google that yourself as it is outside forum rules

I've little experience with ponds and the friends that have them (one has about 2500 gal, another has ~50 with filter, and another has several unfiltered in the 50 gallon range). I don't find any of them interesting as the fish seem bored, if there is such a fish emotion! Mine seem to forage as a group and engage in turning contests. It seems to me that they need lots of room.

API test kit on the way...

(attached water lily with goldfish)
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fantailer
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Re: Natural Pond
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2011, 08:26:46 PM »

They poo al ot so they need tons of room. My goldfis have a bunch of different emotions.
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Fishy Jeff
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Re: Natural Pond
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2011, 11:30:42 PM »

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They poo al ot so they need tons of room. My goldfis have a bunch of different emotions.

OK, I'm new to goldfish. What emotions do goldfish have?

Wikipedia list:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emotions

I've seen all the basic emotions in cats, sometimes in quick succession. What have you got for goldfish? So far I find them a lot more interesting than I expected.

Fishy
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fantailer
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Re: Natural Pond
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2011, 04:34:50 AM »

Some are agressive.
Some are bold.
Some are shy.
If they are swimming alot and fins erect they are happy
If they are sitting at the bottom of the pond with clamped fins they are sad or stressed.
If they have fin erect but they are just looking at the glass then they are probably bored.
If they are a usually calm fish but one day at feeding he or she starts biting a lot he or she is probably annoyed or mad.
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