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Skwishee
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Affinity Feature Ponds?
« on: December 14, 2011, 05:44:24 PM »

Hey everyone!

So I have been wondering.... would it be better for me to save up for a pond, rather than buying a large tank?
You all know I have a common goldfish. I would like to eventually have a pond for her, although as I move so often, building a pond would be impractical.

However I have recently found these;
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Larger and cheaper than any aquarium/stand combination I've found so far.
However again, I'm not sure, how on earth would I move something this big, when it comes to moving house and then I would be under the constraints of always needing to live somewhere with a garden... or a very very big kitchen! It could be used as an indoor pond?

I just wondered on peoples opinions of such a product, or if you have come across any similar products that you could recommend? Does filtration levels change for ponds? What about water changes and maintenance?

At the moment while I save money anyway, I'm just thinking it might be better to buy a pond than an aquarium if I intend to keep single tailed goldfish. What do you guys think?
I'm really not sure as the pond itself is only 450 litres, I could get an aquarium tank that size, so would there be any real difference between a 450 litre pond, than a 450 litre aquarium?
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 02:08:57 AM »

Your call! Smiley It's a very beautiful construction and would look amazing in a garden!
Only difference between this and a 450 liter tank would be the dimensions, and as you probably figured out, this is basically a round tank, not the best shape for goldfish, especially not single tailed. 450 liters is big, but if all the space rather goes upwards, I'd say a rectangular tank would be better. And of course easier to accommodate!
I think you should grab this one when you'll have your own house with your own garden/back yard Smiley

I don't know too much about pond maintenance, except that you need one **** of a filter to deal with all the sludge created (in a natural garden pond), the rotten leaves that accumulate etc. But I think the water changes are less frequent, and of course, it's a little bit harder to control the temperature and water parameters outdoors Smiley Maybe Goldiegirl will have some further info for you Smiley
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 08:34:53 AM »

Hmmm yeah, I looked into the affinity ponds a bit more, and they are only 100 cm/3 foot in length. So I decided they probably aren't that suitable for single tailed goldfish.

But I am wondering if it's possible to get a pre-formed pond and have it free standing?
It would hinder me to always needing a garden, but it's a possibility?
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 08:52:51 AM »

Sure it is! Smiley But obviously, it would be pretty expensive...
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 03:42:56 PM »

Hmmm yeah but everything is expensive in fish keeping XD

Pre-formed ponds are much cheaper than tanks... it would just be getting a stand or something for it... and of course the filter... hmmm
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 05:44:16 PM »

But in the end, what's the difference between a 450 liter pond and a 450 liter tank?
A tank is far more mobile than a pond, unless of course you have a smaller barrel-style pond. Not to mention that the pond also needs a place to be (usually it's not possible to have a stand beneath where you could keep your fishy gear), it needs a filter, usually more powerful than a tank, for various reasons and lighting, if you're intending to keep it indoors.
I really don't think it's the most practical thing to get while you're still young and without a house or a back yard of your own. I mean, young people do move around a lot, switching apartments before settling down Smiley (I have already moved three times in four years.)
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 06:17:34 PM »

Yeah I've moved 5 times in the past 5 years.... I was just off on one of my whims again.... One day a 1000 litre pond... now that will be fun!
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 05:36:35 AM »

Wow that must stink.
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 07:31:59 AM »

I did recently find this Cheesy (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
Very tempting... very tempting, it's so much cheaper than any tank and absolutley massive  Grin

Well currently we have a garden in this house.... but I'm sure something like this that is free standing could be kept indoors..... I think we may be staying here another year or so.... so I guess it'll depend on what we do after that... and when I have the money... But it doesn't hurt to look into things  Smiley Plus I could easily keep food and such in doors, wouldn't be much of a problem at all.

I just feel getting something like the above, would be so much cheaper than buying a 300 litre tank and then having to upgrade later anyway? As commons generally need to have a massive pond or tank.
300 litres for a common isn't that big... and I'd rather not save up 500 to buy a tank that will be useful for a short time, when I could get a pond that will be her forever home and would be easily moveable (once everything's removed it's just an empty tub) and being only 268.59 it's half the price and around 4 times the size!

Although fitting something that's 6 foot by 4 foot may be troublesome.... **** you reality and space!
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2012, 04:49:24 AM »

Or if you have a balcony, that could work, many people in Asia keep ponds that way in cities Smiley But I imagine the water changes could be quite a drag without a hose!

Honestly, I've just started realizing how huge my tank actually is @_@ When I looked at the kids casually one day, I noticed how fast they could go across the tank without bumping into anything! Even from back to front (for the smaller ones), besides, people keep commons and comets in much smaller tanks than that and they can still be happy Smiley I think 300-400L would be a good size for Lucky and her future friends, really, maybe three of them? Smiley
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 06:40:40 AM »

Hmm I see your point Nossie, I found an interesting rule that recommends tanks to be 6x the length of the fish.
So in Lucky's case, a 6 foot tank would be needed there. But 6 foot tanks are rather pricey, not to mention it would need an inane amount of filtration and I just think a pond would be the best place for her to really grow properly, as it would have twice the volume any tank would have and strong filters for ponds are easier to find.

But then of course a pond is a whole other battle field and not really possible at the moment XD
As I'm not sure on how I'd insulate the free standing pond sufficiently enough, getting electricity outside would be another issue, then there's predators to consider  Lips sealed

Why do common goldfish have to grow so big Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 12:20:09 PM »

6 times the length of the fish, you say... I highly doubt Lucky would ever reach a foot in length though Undecided
Not to be mean or anything, but she has had a pretty rough time growing up, and she's staying in a small tank for the time being, considering how poorly they took care of her when she was a fry (considering that she was probably meant to be a feeder fish) as well she'll probably not get much longer than 6-8 inches maybe.
To actually get a goldfish to a foot length, you should probably get a high-quality one from a breeder or a larger fish from a reputable pet shop Smiley

I just don't want you to start thinking that it's absolutely hopeless to keep a common, cigar-shaped goldfish in a tank, because many people do with success! And believe me, it gets pretty stressful in the long run to constantly be thinking "I'll need another bigger tank soon!! My fish will grow out of this thing! :O". Of course, the bigger from the start, the better, but constantly having to upgrade is just unnecessary. For example, having the 125 liter now and later possibly upgrading to the 300 liter should be just enough imo. Just suggesting of course! Smiley And it doesn't mean that you're not ever allowed to have a pond or anything! xD
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 05:05:16 PM »

Thanks Noss  Smiley

The impression other fish keepers have given me, is simply that she will out grow the tank (which I kinda guessed anyway) and I must find a pond home for her, if I cannot provide one myself, or get a 6 foot tank. I mean a 6 foot tank would be a lot of fun, if I had the money and room for one  Cheesy

Not sure how my house mates would feel if I moved the sofa and replaced it with a 6 foot tank! Haha!

I think the 125 litre will do her for a year at least, possibly even two Smiley
So I'll have to wait and see what happens!
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Re: Affinity Feature Ponds?
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2012, 06:12:36 PM »

Of course, it's (imo) impossible to tell how big a goldfish would grow when it's as small as Lucky is and when I have no idea where she's from or anything about her age or... you know.
So let's just see how it goes Wink
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