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Myrren
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Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« on: October 08, 2008, 03:12:29 PM »

Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me. I am a fairly new fish keeper and have had my three gold fish for nearly a month now. Unfortunately my fish were diagnosed with Ich a week a go. After the initial treatment two of the gold fish seemed to recover while the remaining gold fish still seemed to be sick (hanging listless in the corner). I completed the recommended Ich treatment (as on the bottle). After a few days the other two fish became ill again. They all seem to have ragged tail fins (no white spots though) with reddish streaks which they had when I started Ich treatment (they had white spots on their tail fins). They again hang gasping at the surface but occasionally dart around the tank flipping themselves against the tank wall. I tested the water quality and the nitrate and nitrite levels were off the chart so I had to do some drastic water changes over several days to get the nitrite levels down to zero. the water quality is now fine and I have added aquarium salt but the gold fish are still sick and today the weaker one died. It had spent a day on the bottom of the tank, fins clamped and barely moving and kept getting stuck on the filter. it was also very thin. Please can someone tell me how to save the rest of my fish? Do I need to keep treating for Ich, if so when and for how long? or do I need to treat for something else? Also I have noticed that when one of my fish eats, it coughs up its food seconds later! is this normal or another symptom?

Please help me!
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Mikee
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2008, 01:39:14 PM »

The red streaks in fins and tail often is a symptom of Septicimia (blood poisoning). Most likely you have had a water quality issue for a while. Dirty water can cause the goldfish to become susceptible to Ich and other illnesses. Ideally you should keep 1 goldfish per 10 gallon of water.  Ich has to be treated with an antibiotic medication for at least 10 days or longer in order to completely eliminate the parasite. If you treat Ich for less than 10 days , there is a chance some of the parasite will survive and reinfect your goldfish.

Keep doing 25% water changes until your fish symptoms clear up.

If your water parameters seem reasonable consider the decorations you have. Lots of rocks found outdoors can slowly leak copper into the water. This is a common cause of Septicimia.Glazed pots and deco can have a similiar effect. Make sure everything is "aquarium safe".
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Izzy
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2008, 08:35:13 AM »

You should keep all of your your goldfish in a 20 gallon long, but larger would be better, also, did you keep your filter running during the treatment? Because if so, it might have sucked up all the medication.  Also, where do you get your goldfish? Was it a reputable pet store? Or was it Walmart? Were they healthy when you got them? I'd recommend that you do salt dips. Fill a bowl or small tank with water, put about 1 tablespoon of sea salt or aquarium salt per gallon and place each fish in for a few minutes then return it to the tank (if fish show signs of distress like thrashing about, remove it from bowl/tank emmiediatley and add more water to mixture and try again) and do this 3 times a day for a few weeks or until they get better.
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Myrren
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 03:16:42 PM »

 Thanks for your advice

I found out what was wrong with my fish! I recently bought a new (and more expensive) water testing kit and when I tested my tank water I discovered that the PH was 9 with an ammonia concentration of 4ppm. I spoke to a guy at the aquatic shop and he mentioned that the PH of the tap water in my area was coming out about 9. I tested my tap water and it was indeed at PH 9 Huh despite testing the PH previously with test sticks. I treated the fish tank with a PH stabiliser and ammonia lock and after only half an hour the fish were looking a lot happier and are now almost completely recovered. They have a bit of fin rot still which I am treating with medication although I am worried that the fraying may be due to nipping as the fish tend to chase each other about the tank!

water quality is now better ammonia 1ppm, nitrite 0ppm, nitrate 4ppm PH 7.0
Fish were bought from 'pets at home', sort of a pet superstore but maybe they don't really look after their fish properly. The store staff didn't look like they knew what they were doing when I bought the fish! Hopefully everything will be OK now.
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margaret
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 06:25:02 AM »

i have resently brought 4 gold fish they always seem to stay  on the bottom of the fish tank one has died
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margaret
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 06:28:28 AM »

i have got three gold fish they all seem to stay on the bottom of the tank and dont move for any lenth of time please help
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Raj
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2008, 01:09:59 PM »

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i have got three gold fish they all seem to stay on the bottom of the tank and dont move for any lenth of time please help

Sometimes when you get new fish or change their environment in some way, it will them take them a  while to adjust.  Since one of your fish died i would also keep an eye on those fish for signs of disease like ich (white spots on the body and fins), red bruises , and other abnormal appearances.
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JFishFan
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 02:15:41 PM »

Whenever shopping at large pet super stores, where they lack training, maintenance, and specialization, be cautious when selecting your fish. Also strictly follow recommendations about adjustment times, quarantines, and look for any types of change in behavior of your existing fish.

Most Pet retailers receive large shipments of fish in varying conditions. Do a bit of research- find out when their shipments come in and how often they replace fish. High turnover in aquarium populations is a worrying sign that indicates improper care, and avoid purchasing near the arrival date. Often problems relating to their water quality don't exhibit for a few days.

All of this leads up to this- Support your small local fish and aquarium stores. They tend to take better care of their living fish and pets, and they also are more knowledgeable.
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cat
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 03:34:41 PM »

My fish have exactly the same symptoms, red streaks in fins and tail, gasping for air, clamped fins, colourless, sitting at the bottom of tank and not eating.   I have had them for 4 years perfectly healthy, i introduced a small algae cleaning fish a week ago and think its infected my healthy fish.   So very distressed, I have ich treatment which i've started today but feel anxious about their recovery.   I have also removed the new fish i introduced.
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 02:48:03 PM »

i had 10 fish a couple days ago, now I'm down to six and it looks like within the hour I'll be down to four. I have both koi and goldfish. I have a 1o gal. aquarium and I try to keep the water as clean as possible. I have a small pump for air but they end up on the bottom just dying. there are no signs of spots or cloudy eyes or any other sickness. I haven't been overfeeding them. Any ideas?
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Oranda Chubbs
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 01:59:23 AM »

Sorry for your loss, dude you need a bigger tank, ammonia levels must be through the roof. a 30 gallon will provide one small sized gold fish with a great home. 6 in a 10 gallon is pushing it to the max.
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2011, 12:32:40 PM »

Holy mackeral! Oranda Chubbs is right, you have to do something about your fish! Koi are notorious for growing huge. The general rule of thumb is for every goldie you must have 10 gallons. That means you should only have one fish, not ten. If you don't want to loose every fish you own you'd better get the number of fish you have down drastically. Though I've kept 7 goldies in a well cycled and airated 10 gallon (temporarily) it is not recommended while you are struggling to keep them from dying.

In situations like these sometimes its best to choose your favorite fish and give the others back to the store or to someone who will take good care of them.

Sounds like you don't even have your water cycled. I would also recommend getting a nice filter along with your air stone. Test your water too.
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2011, 02:41:34 PM »

ghostly59 you need to get a big 200 gallon tank if 3 are koi. Tell me if not.
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2011, 03:57:34 PM »

Each koi can grow to be 2-3 feet.  This is an old thread, tho.
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Re: Poorly goldfish, one fatality
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2011, 07:37:12 PM »

Yeah..........
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