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Nossie
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Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« on: April 26, 2012, 09:16:23 AM »

I have no idea how many threads I have here already, but they all seem so outdated... D:
I have lost a few fish and gotten a few new ones since last time, so I decided to make another list from scratch! Not to mention that I completely removed the plants and pebbles at one point to give the gravel under all the ferns a good clean-out (man, was it worth it?), so I moved some things around too Smiley
If anyone can identify the tall plants in the back, it'd be awesome xD I have no idea why the goldfish aren't eating these to bare stalks yet, so it would definitely be a plant I'd recommend! Cheesy

For the details: This is a 317 liter/83 gallon setup.

Plants and decorations:
Java Ferns, Anubias, Cryptocoryne, something tall and unidentified and various chunks of driftwood and rocks.

Lighting and filtration:
Using Arcadia Tropical bulbs in the hood, Fluval 4 (or something) internal filter stuffed with sponge medium and an external Eheim 2217 filter. Air stone + pump for cute bubbles.

Inhabitants:
8 Goldfish in total:
-4 Fantails: Honey (Red), Cream(White), Atlas (Red w/ white & black fins and Samurai (Red w/ white nose)
-2 Orandas: Baby (Red) & Phobos (Chocolate)
-1 Pearlscale: Marmalade (Orange & White) and 1 Moor: Raven.
2 Bristlenoses, Boy, Girl and about 9 fry.
-2 Golden Apple Snails: Humphrey Bogart and Andrew Ryan (tee hee)
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 12:26:20 PM »

Superb! Grin
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 09:02:32 PM »

Wow Nossie, looks really, really nice. I keep dreaming about a bigger tank (someday) No idea about the tall plant, but everything looks wonderful!!!  Adorable fish too! Thanks for sharing  Smiley
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2012, 02:22:25 AM »

Thanks! Smiley

I need to get some good pictures of Phobos still, but he's always on the move, in that sort of crazy-looking way xD
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2012, 03:21:18 AM »

Awww so you finally found a chocolate oranda? Grin

It'd be cute to see photo's of the bristlenoses, how are they getting on with the goldfish?  Smiley
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 07:41:37 AM »

Yes I did! When I least expected one, there he was, little Phobos and his brother (But I didn't take the brother home)! He still has breeding stars and is peacefully stalking Baby everywhere Wink The most curious and energetic goldfish I ever had, easily.. Grin

About the Bristlenoses, they move around like the stealthy shadows they are, I got a photo of the girl on the wood, but she doesn't even show on the actual photo *_* And the guy is behind the internal filter, guarding their babies Wink I'll definitely try soon though Smiley
I've always had a few bristlenoses with goldfish in the community tank at home, and it works really well! Though they're a little bit territorial, they never chase the goldfish around or anything Smiley Same thing here, they sort of keep to themselves and only Raven gets startled by them because she doesn't notice until she bumps them xD
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2012, 09:07:54 AM »

Wow. What a beautiful tank and all those goldfish. Cheesy.  They all look so happy swimming with each other.

So is this what happens after being bitten by the goldfish bug? 
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2012, 03:24:57 AM »

Considering I started with a tank one 10th of this size... maybe? xD
I've grown really attached to these fish, so I do hope they're as happy as they look Wink
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2012, 07:01:51 AM »

Sadly I found both the shells of both the snails empty when I came back after a weekend at my parents' house Sad I have no idea what might have happened to them Sad
Either way, I think I'm done trying my luck with them now, at least in the goldfish tank.

Found a white oranda with a red heart on the side today <3 I had to try so hard not to take her home! :'D
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 01:55:31 PM »

Somebody needs to develop midget goldfish that grow no bigger than 2/3 inches. Then we could get more in a tank  Wink

Sorry to hear your snails went MIA. Did the goldfish eat them?

Question for you:  what's the tall lanky plant in your tank?  It's really beautiful.
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2012, 03:11:01 PM »

Nah, if anything ate them, it was probably the bristlenoses after their demise. My goldfish are always very friendly to snails and catfish Smiley

The tall plant, huh? I asked on this forum in this very thread what it is xD I'm on another forum as well though, might try my luck there and get back to you! Smiley
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2012, 08:09:46 PM »

Thanks Nossie  Smiley
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2012, 04:19:00 AM »

could that plant be Potamogeton densus ?
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2012, 09:07:56 AM »

Nope, I just saw some closeups googling that... doesn't seem to be the one. The leaves aren't very transparent, they're just sort of light green and kind of round Smiley It doesn't show too clearly on the picture, but the tops of the plants are slightly reddish?
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2012, 01:27:34 PM »

Okay you've had me intrigued with this plant.... so I wandered around google and could it be an 'Ammannia bonsai'?  Smiley
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2012, 01:33:18 AM »

 Nope, it's a bit thinner than that one and the leaves are a little further apart Wink
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2012, 03:18:10 AM »

Awwww really? But they looked so similar Cheesy

Rotala Indica is another name for Ammannia Bonsai.... Maybe it's part of the Rotala family?
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2012, 03:46:33 AM »

Potamogetons seem to vary so wildly, I find it hard to believe that they are all the same species. Perhaps it's one of those catch alls, in other words "Don't have a clue what this is, must be some sort of Potamogeton "


If your plant is doing and well and is goldfish resistant then propagate it and pass it on. After all we are all looking for something other than, swords, anubias and Java ferns for our goldies. Grin
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2012, 03:37:33 AM »

Haha Grin I brought a little bunch of these to mom's community tank two weeks ago, her fat goldfish Peter destroys everything except java ferns so I thought it would be nice to give her some of these Smiley Posting in that other forum (FINALLY) to see if they have any ideas there... there are more people there so with any luck at least one of them might have an idea? Smiley
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2012, 04:42:23 AM »

I've lost two Apple snails recently....they don't live that long (I think). I believe that their life-cycle might be temperature dependant, and will have a shorter life-span if they are in a warmer tank (increased metabolism perhaps)
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2012, 01:03:15 PM »

That would explain their behavior actually... the shop I bought them in keeps the tanks at a pretty cool temperature (at least for goldfish and platies, which I've bought), they were acting like snails do, climbing about in their own pace whereas they got a lot slower when I introduced them to the goldfish tank (26 degrees) and died in about a week.
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2012, 03:11:38 PM »

and the remains of my snails, were devoured by the remaining snails Embarrassed
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 02:53:46 AM »

Oh no D8
I guess they got a nice snack though... my bristlenoses happily cleaned out the shells for me :'D

Update on the thread about the plants finally, pictures didn't work so I had to upload them again, argh.
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2012, 03:08:23 AM »

Did you guys know we can eat apple snails?! (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

A strange discovery I made this morning.... Also I found an interesting table about apple snails and temperatures.... (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.) If you go on the 'Care' section and scroll down... you'll find it  Smiley

I also found this on their website-
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How old do apple snails get?
The apple snail's life expectancy mainly depends on the temperature of their environment and the general life conditions. At lower temperatures, the apple snail can get over 3 years old and records of apple snails of ten years old have been reported. Lanistes nyassanus has an estimated life span of 5 to 10 years in Lake Malawi, Africa.
At a temperature of 25C, they will only live 12-16 months. At higher temperatures, the snails are more active because their metabolism increases with the temperature, but this also speeds up their life cycle and thus shortens their life expectancy.
So you can elongate your snail's life by lowering the temperature. A general rule: keep the temperature between 18 and 28C (65-82F).
It is suspected that at least some apple snail species need an aestivation period in the mud to avoid burning-out.


Let us know if anyone identifies the plant Nossie!
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2012, 03:30:09 AM »

You can indeed eat Apple Snails, and you can catch diseases from them.Rat lungworm disease (eosinophilic meningitis) caused by apple snails results primarily from consumption of raw or undercooked snail meat but contact with the debris associated with preparation of the snails for eating may also cause infection.


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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2012, 04:54:29 AM »

Nossie I defenetly like how you found tall plants for the back!
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2012, 05:51:32 AM »

Skwishee: So far they suggested bacopa, which is a family of plants and I honestly didn't feel like trying to find the specific one xD Looks reasonable so far though?

fantailer: Thank you! Smiley I'm going to split these and spread them out more as they grow to get even more of them spread out over the back.. almost like a curtain Smiley
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2012, 02:44:43 AM »

Yeah fair enough Cheesy
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2012, 05:18:06 AM »

Tank is looking great Nossie and your plantings are well thought out and so healthy looking... I lost all my bladder snails, Bowie and Snowie sucked em outa their shells I think... I found these other snails in my pond, they have a tan stripe across their shells and twice the size of the bladder snails, so far so good (two weeks) and the ryukins don't seem to bother them. Hope you and the gang here are all well. Cheers > Ron
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Re: Re-decorated Goldfish tank!
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2012, 02:44:49 AM »

Thank you very much, Ron Smiley
Everyone's doing great! We'll be moving to a bigger apartment now though so the tank will most likely end up looking a bit different again Wink
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