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Kirby
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Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« on: November 03, 2008, 05:26:25 PM »

So are plastic (fake)  plants better than real plants in an aquarium. Why is one better than the other. Grin
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smithy
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2008, 03:13:22 PM »

real plants provide more oxygen in your tank which is good for your fish, plus they provide a more natural enviroment. Hope this is of some help.
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Tony
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 11:11:30 AM »

My goldfish as been upside down for weeks, can anybody answer why?
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Fisher
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 11:55:53 AM »

Goldfish sometimes suffer from internal swim bladder problems. The swim bladder is an organ that helps to balance the goldfish in the water so that it can swim in a normal position. Sometimes, when the water is too extreme in temperature, it can cause the goldfish's bladder to constrict or expand, which causes it to float in an arkward position, perhaps even upside down. Try changing the temperature very gradually - it should be around 70'F.

It can also be genetic, bacterial, or caused by poor living conditions. Since your goldfish has been upside down for weeks, it could be  genetic. Another problem could be that you are over-feeding it. Fancy goldfish have short bodies when you overfeed this places pressure on the sack of air that allows them to maintain balance, the swimbladder. You should starve him for 3 days and then feed him shelled peas for about another 3 days. Just buy a bag of frozen peas warm them up and pop them out of their shell- it's easy. You may have to crush them between your fingers if the goldfish is tiny. The peas will help to clear out the digestive track- there is a lot of protein in fish food which often leads to constipation in goldfish.(when they have a long strand of poop hanging of them then they have constipation issues)

If all else fails, it may just have an oddly developed swim bladder. He should be just fine. Just make sure it gets adequate supply oxygen (through bubbles) to ensure a happy life.
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 06:57:50 PM »

My vote is for real plants - as some others here have said, they provide oxygen, as well as using nutrients and CO2 - so algae can't grow, or starves if it already has.  Goldfish also like to nibble on many plants, and that's nice for them:)  But the biggest thing for me is that I absolutely HATE fake stuff, especially fake aquarium plants!  LOL  I can recommend a plant (even though you didn't ask:) - anacharis.  'Grows like crazy with with even decent light, roots easily, can be "topped" and the top replanted, little ones grow from the roots up through the substrate (this is really cool:), and it can take the punishing appetite of goldfish, so long as there's more than just a couple sprigs:)  And it's widely available, and not expensive. 
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 07:11:19 PM »

Real plants are often the better choice, as they provide oxygen and a natural food source. However, some fish such as koi and goldfish will uproot plants. Another problem is maintenence of the plants. I have had the best experience with aponegeton bulbs and elodea (also known as anacharis). These plants seem like the hardiest aquatic plants i have used in my aquarium, and grow in almost all situations. Some species of aponogeton make an excellent showpiece and may even bear flowers. Hope this helps!  Grin
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 09:12:31 AM »

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My goldfish as been upside down for weeks, can anybody answer why?
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 01:21:55 AM »

Like Grasslander said-REAL! Wink

Plastic isn't good for anyone or anything and it doesn't do any good (unless you're a plastic surgeon. Kiss)

I love fish, although I've only had Bettas. Real plants are beneficial in many ways. Goldfish (and Bettas) love the salad bar Wink, it also helps break down waste and O2 levels. If you're careful what plant you choose, your Goldfish can use it as a resting place too. Smiley
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 01:35:13 PM »

In my small outdoor pond (about 300g.) I have tried both. I love the real plants but my goldfish made a huge mess with them.  I prefer the water clear so I can watch the fish.  Now I use silk or plastic which grow algae on them and the fish love eating the algae off.  Now if I want water plants they get their own place.
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 03:12:00 PM »

Real plants all the way! I have three kinds in my aquarium that are growing like crazy.

Now, the benefits of natural plants is as follows:
-they give oxygen
-they consume nitrates (which may be harmful if too big amount)
-they look far better than any plastic plants.

But do bear in mind that during nights they consume oxygen, so keep the tank well aerated.
As other people mentioned, goldfish like digging but this ain't a problem as long as the plants are weighed down by some bigger pebbles rather than only grovel... it's only better if they have big and powerful roots so you can plant them deep! Finally, do pick some plants with thick leaves so the goldfish won't eat them.

Reasons I don't like plastic:
-they look fake and tend to have shitty colors
-they seem to be worse to plant
-they might cut your goldfish's fins

Though I guess they would be nice if you feel too lazy to trim and discard dead leaves of live plants.
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 09:09:25 AM »

go for the live plants.. do not use fake or artificial plants... the live plants is cheaper than fake one..
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 02:06:56 PM »

I'd say live plants - your fishy can munch on them and they give oxygen  Smiley
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2010, 05:03:41 AM »

Generally I vote for real plants.
They supply extra oxygen and also are a nice sald snack for our fishies.

But because we are about to set up a big tank I am thinking to combine real plants ( front ) with fake ones ( background )
I bought some fake ones, they are not dearer than the real ones and they are nice and soft, like real ones.
I did this because our 2 goldies munch up everything what's eatable.

I'd never go without real plants  (but because of the tank size it may be a practical idea to have both types, so it wouldn't be necessary to replace all of them aftera while)
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2010, 06:11:22 AM »

In our new "old" tank (posted in "Tank And Equipment >> Our New Tank") we decided to have real AND fake plants.
We do have 4 different types of real plants (the big ones) Vallisneria, Hornworth, Cryptocoryne undulata, a floating mossball and one I couldn't find out yet. The small plants are fake, except one small little Hornworth which fell off the big bunch.  Smiley
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2010, 06:18:33 AM »

Here are some pics of those plants.

Maybe some one can identify the tall plant in the middle (green, reddish, brown) ? Just the one below the floating moss ball.

Many THANKS  Smiley
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2010, 07:06:48 AM »

Hanna,
I've seen those moss balls at our petstore but they weren't floating but sitting on the bottom of the tank.  I wonder why yours floats? Is it suppose to? Huh
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2010, 07:10:48 AM »

Yes, it is,  Wink I've seen them flosting in our petstore, they say sometimes it may go down but then it floats again. Seen them in quite a few tanks. They do have a lead weight on the other end of the line, so they cannot float all over the tank.  Wink
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2010, 02:36:39 PM »

Well, I think they are pretty cool! Wink
What kind of lighting do they need?
I always pick the plants that need moderate to low light cuz otherwise they don't seem to do so well in my 55 gallon tank. Undecided
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2010, 05:24:04 AM »

I found out what this floating moss ball consits of:  It is nothing else than a very light plastic ball with heaps of holes and some moss stuck in it, so it can float. Our fishies munched it up in one week.... did cost almost AU$ 13.00 LOL  Grin So from now on I use this empty plastic ball to fill with some Hornworth branches or some Elodea branches, so they do have sth floating on top too, but it is sort of "organized"  Wink
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2010, 05:43:17 PM »

If a moss ball sticks to the bottom and moves a little, it's a Japanese moss ball, which is practically an organism in itself and people sometimes keep them in place of fish. Look them up, I find them fascinating.

I've started to use a mix of silk (never plastic) and live plants. Mostly because my goldfish strip any and all live plants of their leaves within a few weeks, and it looks terrible until they grow back, so silk plants help keep the tank aethestically pleasing at least. Silk plants tend to look much more natural then plastic plants, at least, and it's nice to pretend I have exotic plants in my tank. Y'know, instead of just creating a mini indoor version of my pond.

I promise I'm not a silk plant salesperson.
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2010, 03:35:47 AM »

Jujube: I agree about the silk plants! I've seen some examples here and there, and they do look far more convincing Smiley
However, which live plants do you use to have? Java fern would be great for you to try out! It tastes very bitter for the fish, so they won't eat it Wink And it grows into very nice and thick "forests" of it! It's good to grow in the back and on the sides of the tank to cover up filtration and other equipment! Cheesy
Other things you may try would be different kinds of Anubias, there are some really small ones, but they've got such leathery leaves that the fish won't do anything to them Smiley They grow like small "carpets" so they can be grown in the front of the tank Cheesy
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 09:31:24 PM »

I'm trying to stay away from the fake plants... I have mostly real in my tank now (GO ME! XD) aside from a giant palm tree ive stuck in there. Tongue Tiger loooooves eating my plants now, and Sonorus likes covering up the roots..... hehehehehe
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2010, 04:52:48 AM »

LOL, this sounds so sweet  Cheesy
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2011, 08:27:46 PM »

Can someone recommend a type of plant that wont "grow into a forest". I hate clutter, love sparse and understocked tanks. Is there a more comprehensive thread somewhere that I'm missing? With perhaps a how-to section?
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2011, 02:24:30 PM »

Umm... could anubias be what you're thinking about? (see picture below)
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You see how this sort of grows leaves from a certain point in the gravel, upwards Smiley There are types of anubias that will grow out towards the sides, but this one (Anubias Barteri or Barter's Anubias) won't. You can also stick it to a piece of driftwood or a gnarly rock and it will grow from there.

I also have something called Cryptocoryne, I believe, with thinner leaves that will grow even bigger than anubias but grows the same way Smiley These also have a lighter green color to the leaves so they might go well with the darker colors of the previously mentioned anubias Cheesy

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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2011, 09:51:14 AM »

I think a how-to on plants would be a nice idea.
I'm currently thinking about having a mix of silk and real plants, will this look okay? Or will it be obvious which ones aren't real?

I'm thinking silk ones at the back to hide things, maybe one or two in the gravel (so I don't have to get any substrate) and then real plants attached to driftwood... No idea if I'll actually go with this plan or not, just toying with ideas really XD

Also how does having substrate affect gravel cleaning? Substrate goes under the gravel right? So what if I suck some up while I'm cleaning?
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2011, 12:30:52 PM »

Substrate is gravel. You shouldn't have more than one layer of gravel unless you're having an undergravel filter with sand on top, then you should put the filter "sheet" and then some coarser substrate, a mesh net in between and on the very top you'd place a layer of sand.

Exactly why do you think you'd need anything below the gravel? Wink It would just mix up when you'd clean it anyway Smiley

You could easily mix silk and live plants, some other members did that. If you'd notice that it doesn't look good, you could remove the silk plants and keep them in the quarantine tank Smiley
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2011, 03:31:12 PM »

....So why have I had this insane notion that I've needed something under the gravel as I've had plants die... they have nothing to root in or get nutrients? Haha all this time I thought there was something magical you guys had under the gravel....

Like this stuff (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
What on earth is this stuff and how is it used? I think some where along the lines I've gotten confused....

But thank you! I saw some silk plants in the LFS today, but if I don't need any magical substrate then I'll probably go live plants all the way for the main tank. I've seen products to help plants, things you add to the water, are they okay to use with fish? I'm a little hesitant to chuck random products in the tank for the sake of a plant...
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2011, 04:07:28 PM »

I think that's just something you can mix with the gravel if you want to keep a Dutch aquarium (a tank where you keep mostly plants and just a few small fish, like guppies) with especially sensitive plants.

The extra plant pills/liquids are okay, but unnecessary when keeping goldfish, the fish will create enough nitrates for the plants to eat Smiley
Just be sure to buy some bulbs that will help promote plant growth! Cheesy
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Re: Should i use fake or real plants in my aquarium?
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2011, 05:52:41 PM »

Oh also just incase Cheri pops back here, I found this useful article (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)

It has lots about plants for goldfish  Cheesy
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