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Katarine
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #90 on: April 11, 2010, 10:09:43 PM »

I wanna try earthworms on them next.. If i can find any in this friggin city... lol
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #91 on: April 11, 2010, 10:13:41 PM »

Earthworms? Aren't they too big? Or are they frozen and mashed up...?
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #92 on: April 11, 2010, 10:17:00 PM »

well i'd cut them up. wonderful source of protein they are... I mean, when you're young they're delicious... (yes I did eat one once.. not TOO bad)
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #93 on: April 11, 2010, 10:21:02 PM »

Hmmmmmmmmm, getting hungry Cheesy will go and cook sth, will see you later on this forum.
You know, it is always so exciting to come back and log in and see the new posts about us and our fishies Cheesy
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2010, 10:22:46 PM »

Yea I better get back to studying... University is a friggin job without rest... Sad I'll log in tomorrow. Night all! Wink
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #95 on: April 12, 2010, 02:54:45 AM »

Katarine: Would you catch these worms on your yard? o.o
If that's the case it's not a very good idea! Because this is an invite to trouble in your tank... they might bring parasites or some other disease to your fish!
So if you want to feed them live foods, buy them at a reputable pet store!
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #96 on: April 12, 2010, 04:14:14 AM »

Hahahahaha, catching in the yard, Nossie you make my belly muscles working Cheesy
You are so cute and refreshing, lol.

I am sure Kat won't catch them in her yard, lol Wink
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #97 on: April 12, 2010, 10:34:09 AM »

nahhhh i'd probably buy them at a bait store, or something. Smiley that or treat the living crap out of them with parasite clear Smiley


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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2010, 12:54:11 PM »

Mwaha! Sorry xD But there are shitloads of them here when it rains... :'D And I heard that some hobbyists do catch worms for their fish o__o

Still, I felt so happy when I found that parasite clear in the pet shop! Cheesy (didn't buy it though) It even said "Made in the U.S"! So cool!
(Because Parasite Clear are those tabs, rite?)
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #99 on: April 12, 2010, 01:22:06 PM »

yea teh little fizzy tabs that don't cloud the water yellow like other meds.. Tongue
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #100 on: April 13, 2010, 03:54:05 AM »

AWESOOME! : D
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #101 on: April 13, 2010, 07:40:22 PM »

hi! my goldfish is acting very strangely. First of all, it is swimming like it can't control itself, it's nose-diving and can't move in the direction it wants to. also, some scales on its back are peeling off. also, my algae eater is sucking on its back where the scales are coming off, i removed the algae eater from the tank. what is wrong with my fish and what can i do about it?
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #102 on: April 14, 2010, 02:49:28 AM »

lily: First of all, check your water parameters. Buy tests for pH, nitrite, nitrate and ammonia and test for all of them right away.
The problem your fish has could be a swim bladder disorder, or he's suffering from high nitrates. (High nitrates could be a problem in crowded, small tanks with no live plants)

When you've tested the water, and it contains high nitrates, or has any other problems with water quality, you need to repair this problem as soon as possible!
If everything is okay, do a water change and add salt to your tank. Just follow the instructions on the package. Then let your fish be without food for three days while closely observing the behavior of the fish. After the three days you should start feeding him/her shelled peas. simple, frozen peas that you thaw and pop out of their shells before feeding.
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #103 on: January 25, 2011, 03:08:31 AM »

Hi, my partner and I are relatively new goldfish owners, and we've got a bit of a problem with our little guy. We recently changed the water - 100%, maybe 24 hrs ago. First, we left it out in an aluminum pot overnight because we were told that it helps to eliminate chlorine, as far as I remember. We have a small tank, about 4-5 litres - we didn't know it was supposed to be bigger until after we had him in it. It has a pump, but not a filter. We don't have the funds to buy any more equipment, although we love this little fish and I hate to think that he's suffering right now.

To the point: since we replaced the water, he's been hanging vertically from the water surface, gulping. From what I've read in this forum, it seems likely that he's having trouble breathing! I don't understand why this is so, since the pump seems to be working fine. Is there anything we can do to help him, maybe add some kind of water conditioner? Did we do something wrong when we changed the water?

Hope you can help us,

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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #104 on: January 25, 2011, 03:25:18 AM »

It's because the tank is 10 times too small.
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #105 on: January 25, 2011, 05:36:28 AM »

You should have made a new post, you'll get alot more attention and therefore many more answers Smiley But oh well.

If you don't have the funds, you are going to have to give this fish away, I'm sorry I know you don't mean to but what you have your fish in is absolute torture!! There is no question about it and I hope you believe me! Your fish will most likely die, we've all been there and I've come along way from that so I know what I'm talking about.

Goldfish need minimum of 40 litres each!! So imagine what this four litres is like, it does not sound like you cycle the tank and there is no way it will ever cycle. Look up the nitrogen cycle, key point of owning fish! But the thing is, you can find plenty of cheap tanks so you don't really need the funds at all Cheesy Look on ebay, craiglist, ask at your local fish/pet shop, second hand shops, etc. You can get pretty mcuh everything second hand and cheap and save your fish.

There is probably barely any oxygen in your tank and goldfish need alot. I had my goldfish in a 22 litre tank with a filter and she even use to gasp at the top, she is now much happier in a 90 litre tank Smiley

You also did do something wrong when you changed the water, you need to use water conditioner!! Just resting the water does nothing and it is completely useless. Water conditioner is made for this purpose and is instant, cheap and easy. Go buy some asap!

I could give you endless advice but none of it is going to work unless you get a bigger tank now, I can't even see how your poor fish can even move around Sad I wish I knew all this sooner so feel lucky you do and save your fish!
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #106 on: January 25, 2011, 05:59:06 AM »

Hey chwite!
Andrea is right with everything she said! Smiley
You need a bigger tank pronto. A tank 40 litres+ brand new will only set you back around $60 in Australia or even less if you get one second hand.
Also you should never change 100% of the water in the tank as this will further stress the fish out as there will be a sudden change in pH and water temperature.
Without a filter you will also find it near impossible to keep your fish alive. The filter holds beneficial bacteria which removes ammonia from the water, without a filter the ammonia builds up and can be lethal to your fish.
I don't mean to sound harsh...but if you are not willing to follow these steps then you should give your fish to someone who is willing to do so, or back to the pet shop as it will have a higher chance of survival then if you were to keep it in your current set up Smiley
Oh and if you decide to keep the fish then you will need to do daily water changes of 50% until you buy a bigger tank.


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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #107 on: January 25, 2011, 06:16:38 AM »

Everybody is right here.
1. your fish needs a bigger tank, min 40l
2. never perform a 100 % waterchange with letting the water sit. It doesn't do anything.
3. Don't keep the water in metal buckets, containers as metal ions diffuse into the water and they are not healthy for fish.
4. Use water conditioner, it is meant to remove chlorine, chloramine, heavy metals. Some conditioners also detoxify Ammonia and   
   remove hydrated lime. The prepared water can and should be used instantly.
5. It is essential to use beneficial bacteria to aid in the Nitrogen Cycle.

At this stage your fish is suffering, suffocating in its own sewerage. It is tortured to death if you not act asap.
50% waterchanges every day using conditioner and beneficial bacteria.
You also should provide excellent filtration and aeration, live plants.

If you cannot care like you should, please give your fish to somebody who knows how to look after it, asap.
Unfortunately you don't  live next door, ... I'd take it straight away.

Please understand: YOU CANNOT KEEP IT LIKE THIS
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #108 on: January 25, 2011, 08:26:30 AM »

I had to go convert to see what size this was in gallons.  That is not good, a 1 gallon tank?  They make such a thing? 

I know you can get a 10g or 40l  tank cheap.  It won't take a lot of funds, just a little time.   Smiley
That would be much better for now at least.  I wish you lived close to me, I have 2 of them sitting around not being used at all.  Please listen to the people here, they know what they are talking about and these are important steps you need to make to insure your fish doesn't die. 

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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #109 on: January 25, 2011, 11:53:46 AM »

Thanks for all of your replies. We knew the tank was too small for him, and we could tell he isn't happy. We live in Canada, and while we might not be able to drop $60 or more on a new tank right now, I'll see what I can do to get one second-hand.

Any recommendations for water conditioner? Or a filter?
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« Reply #110 on: January 25, 2011, 11:59:02 AM »

You can get a whole 10 gallon tank set up for as little as $30.....come with everything, you can add an air stone and a pump very cheaply.   aqueon makes a very nice tank set comes with everything and the filter is for use up to 20 gallons and runs 125 gallons of water per hour through it. Smiley
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« Reply #111 on: January 25, 2011, 04:38:54 PM »

I'm liking the "Prime" for a water conditioner that was recommended by another member here.  Smiley
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #112 on: January 25, 2011, 05:28:56 PM »

Where about in Canada do you live? There are a few members living in Canada, they might have a tank which is not in use and sell it to you cheap. Also if you browsw craigslist or even other forums you can be very lucky to pick up a bargain for almost nothing.
Yes, "Prime" and "Stability" from Seachem are top products.
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #113 on: January 25, 2011, 06:44:23 PM »

We're in Vancouver. I've been looking on craigslist, but the trouble is, they often don't have lids, or a light, or a filter...
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« Reply #114 on: January 25, 2011, 07:15:40 PM »

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We're in Vancouver. I've been looking on craigslist, but the trouble is, they often don't have lids, or a light, or a filter...


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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #115 on: January 26, 2011, 12:53:25 AM »

You can also buy all of that second hand, just make you sterilise everything Smiley If you look up how to do it on google I'm sure you will work it out, I know aimee has alot of experience doing that as she always buys second stuff. You could ask her or I'll get her to tell you how Smiley

I don't want Canada has in terms of major shopping centres but you could find a 40 litres tank for very little and it will come with everything. Pet shops often have deals too, just make sure it is no less than 40 litres.

Have you looked up the nitrogen cycle too? I'm not sure in this case what everyone else would recommend. Should they put the fish in the uncycled tank straight away? It's a bit of desperate situation, where both would sort of be bad  Undecided But if they add them to the new tank straight away, they could add lots of beneficial bacteria, keep an eye on water quality and do alot of water changes.
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #116 on: January 26, 2011, 01:36:48 AM »

In this certain situation, I'd put the fish in the bigger tank but it is UTMOST IMPORTANT to add beneficial bacteria to the tank every single day for at least 7 days ( see Stability )

First of all you MUST read up about the Nitrogen Cycle, it is elementary knowledge about fish keeping and what happens in a fish tank. Browse the articles on this website, it is a MUST KNOW for every fishkeeper
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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #117 on: January 26, 2011, 01:42:06 AM »

Another idea, if you can get a second hand pump and filter and airstone you may be able to "create" sth like an indoor pond with a 80l plastic container. Camouflage the not nice looking sides of it with lovely potplants. A black or blue container would look nice, get some gravel, some aquarium plants, install the filter and the pump with the airstone. Place some nice potplants around the plastic tub.... ideas, ideas

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Re: Goldfish Habits
« Reply #118 on: January 26, 2011, 09:39:42 AM »

Just adding my opinion:
There is this idea that a goldfish needs a minimum of 20 gallons (=80L) to live comfortably. This has to do with the measurements of the tank so that the fish will have enough space as it grows. Which is why I wouldn't keep even one goldfish in ANYTHING smaller than 60L, the bigger the better, always when it comes to goldfish.
If you have a tank larger than 80 liters, you can safely keep one fish per 40 liters of tank water. But just for the comfort, nothing smaller than 60L for ONE fish.
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