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RyukinCalico_Lover
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Starting my first fancy tank!
« on: April 01, 2012, 08:16:19 PM »

Hey guys, i just joined here. I going to be getting some fancy goldies in about a week for my newly re-setup 10 gallon tank. Im commited to my water changes. I just want to know how many small ones i can get now. I will be upgrading in the future. I like Calico varietys of the Ryukins, Orandas and fantails. I have an aquatech 5-15 filter and the tank is cycled.
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Mearwynna
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2012, 09:13:05 PM »

You can get one now. Or of they are really tiny, maybe two but 10 gallons will be only a temporary home for them. I think it will be o.k for about 4 months, that's about how long Sebastian Pearl lasted in the ten. As they get larger you can really see that they need more room.

The only thing I would use a ten gallon for is a hospital/isolation tank or as a peaceful community tank for very small fish (And not very many of them.) Put some live plants in there, too. Anubias are usually not eaten by the goldies but they will provide better water quality for them.
I think it is really important either to 1, to get all the herd at the same time (in a large basic tank) or 2 to go slow and get them one at a time, and allow the filter bacteria to catch up and allow you time to observe and treat them in a hospital tank for health problems.

I have a brand new goldie (a butterfly) in our hospital tank right now. So far he's doing fine, he has 6 tsp salt in his tank and just a few rocks and gravel to hide around.  His name is Cocoa Pearl and he's a bronze, looks a lot like a Moor but has less pronounced eyes and a lovely tail. He's about two inches long.

How quickly are you going to upgrade? Will you be able to do it before they have health problems from being over crowded?
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RyukinCalico_Lover
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2012, 07:12:38 AM »

Yes i should be able to upgrade in 4 months. If for some reason i couldnt what would happen to my goldies?
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Mearwynna
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2012, 08:47:09 AM »

They would be stunted at the very least, of course you would have to watch amonia like a hawk. You would end up with very frequent water changes as they get bigger like every other day...I was doing 50% water changes very frequently towards the end of Sebastian's stay in the ten gallon. There is no wiggle room in a ten gallon tank. Smiley No margin for error or laziness about the water changing, I mean.
Do you know what size tank you will need to upgrade to? How many goldies are you planning for?
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RyukinCalico_Lover
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2012, 03:50:05 PM »

i was hoping for 3 and a snail which will require a minumum 55 gallon in the end.
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2012, 04:23:27 PM »

Yeah Id say for three and a snail 20 gallons would be minimum just for a couple months at first if they are very tiny. But you really only need a 30 gallon for 3 goldfish and a snail.
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RyukinCalico_Lover
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2012, 03:25:34 PM »

Are Oranda's and Ryukin's okay to keep together?
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fantailer
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2012, 03:44:54 PM »

Yes they are perfect together.
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RyukinCalico_Lover
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2012, 07:50:26 PM »

Are Oranda's super prone to infections in there head's?
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 04:24:28 AM »

Yeah they get fish lice and other diseases in their heads.
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 12:06:57 PM »

No, you can't get a goldfish in the 10 gallon. You'll be stunting their growth even for just four months, if you really, really need to have a fish NOW, you can add some platies or other smaller tropicals, but I wouldn't risk stunting the goldfish... I feel really bad for the three I once kept in a 10 gallon... :/ The baby orandas and fantails I bought later for the 80 gallon have already caught up with them even though they're one year younger at least!

Orandas grow huge, so don't ever put one of those into anything smaller than a 30 gallon, and you need to make sure you feed them a varied diet with lots of protein or else they won't grow well and their digestive system won't work the way it should. Frankly, do some more research still on different varieties of goldfish, you can just google whichever you're interested in and read about them Smiley
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Skwishee
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Re: Starting my first fancy tank!
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 01:44:34 PM »

I'd agree with Nossie, it would just be better to wait a few months for the bigger tank and in the meantime do a little research Smiley

The other risk with putting fish in such a small tank as a 10 gallon, is that the water quality will be un-stable and will not be very good quality. The fish will effectively be living in their own waste, which can make them sick or even worse, they can die from it.
Trust me, I had 2 goldfish in a 5 gallon tank and I lost Star within a week. I would hate for you to make the same mistake.

If I could have, I would have gone for a larger tank to begin with, rather than going smaller and losing one of them.

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