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April
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First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« on: October 20, 2010, 07:42:21 PM »

A little update on the cycling situation over here in Mr. Tailer's tank. I believe we achieved balance about a week ago and I didn't realize it. I'm still learning so much about this key to successful fishkeeping. My ammonia was 0 and nitrites 0 but the nitrates were thru the roof so I panicked and did a huge water change and upset the newly settled tank. I must learn to be patient. I just want the best for my new little fin waving friend.
This mornings readings were ammonia= 1.0 (API test), nitrite= 0.3 and nitrate= 50 (both with Nutrafin test kit). Switched out some more water this afternoon and added some AmmoLock to render high ammonia levels non-toxic and added an air stone for more movement in the tank. Nutrafin Cycle has been added a few times with new water. Through all of this Mr. Tailer is hanging tough and fins are standing tall and he seems very happy. Started him with bloodworms today and I think he thinks they are his waste since they are the same shape LOL but he eventually tasted them and loves them Cheesy
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Andrea
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Re: First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2010, 09:26:57 PM »

I'm sure you have said this before Mr.Tailer but I can't quite remember but how big is your tank?? That could be the main source of all your problems OR you should test your water you are using to fill up the tank, some local water has quite bad readings and when you are trying to fix the problem with water changes well sometimes it can make it worse. Supposedly my local water has ammonia in it and I can never get my ph lower than 7.6.

It seems to be taking so long to cycle, I had the mini cycle going for a few weeks but it is gone now due to water changes and also waiting. I also use stress zyme which I like but I think there is better products out there Smiley Throughout my mini cycle my Sunshine was absolutely 100% fine, some fish are just strong but prolonged exposure would not be good.

I have no experience with ammonia lock just remember it doesn't actually get rid of the ammonia so the problem isn't gone. I think it can also mess with the water tests so I dunno, if your fish is 100% I wouldn't use it. But we'll see what everyone else says.
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Re: First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2010, 09:50:59 PM »

I would do small water changes and often as needed per the test results.
I would also just feed Mr. Tailer once a day and small amounts.
If your tank is showing ammonia that means the bacteria are not established yet enough to keep up with a heavy waste load.
Use bacteria booster at every water change and be sure to add it right to the filter media.
Remember that the ammonia lock will still give you a false reading tho.
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April
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Re: First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2010, 10:31:07 PM »

The tank is 10 gallons with just the one adorable squishy fish, Mr. Tailer. I must agree Andrea about the prolonged exposure which at this point is my greatest concern. I tested my tap water through a Brita filter unit and it contains appox. 0.25 ammonia and some days it is as high as 0.50 I don't know why it has increased as it was zero a month ago. That is why I added the Ammo Lock now as I can't seem to win with the tap water. The pH remains between 7.0 and 7.5 Tailer is very hearty and so chipper everytime I walk into the room. Thanks for your input Smiley Mindemae I will continue small changes daily and I bought some Top Fin Bacteria Supplement. Is that the same as adding Nutrafin Cycle though?? Can you add too much of this stuff?? So many products when I stand in the aquarium aisles at the pet store, it is very confusing Huh Thanks for your advice as well Smiley
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Re: First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2010, 11:14:29 PM »

Can I just add that a great water conditioner is by aqueon and it neutralizes ammonia as well as nitrites.
and the topfin brand is petsmarts own brand and my sister uses that and likes it.  I'm a API stresszyme gal! Wink
You should add a bit if you do a water change right in the filter media.  Do you have an extra bubbler going in the tank besides the filter?  This may help too. Smiley
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Re: First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2010, 07:27:57 AM »

I use this "Stability" a Seachem brand, with every waterchange. They also recommend to add it daily for the first week if the tank is not cycled.
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Re: First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2010, 10:47:53 AM »

Pretty much covered everything here Smiley
But I might just as well add my straw to the bunch and say that I'm using a water conditioner/bio filter booster by Easy Life called "Fluid Bio Filter Media". This is an incredibly good thing to use when starting a cycle in your tank! (And after)
It works not only as a water conditioner, but it also adds lots of beneficial bacteria to your tank Smiley It also promotes the slime coat of your fish and strengthens the immune system, as well as it can treat fin rot and slight signs of fungal infection.

I cycled my 83 gallon in just 12 days using that! d: Changing 50% of the water about once a week. And also, just to take away some of the glory of the product, I had saved a bucket of water from the old tank (although ONE bucket won't make a difference in such a large system...) and about 6L (1.5 gal.) of gravel.
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April
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Re: First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2010, 02:05:27 PM »

Thank you for sharing your successes with various products, at times all the bottles on the shelf become a blur in the petstores - this helps so much to hear about your own experiences Cheesy Nitrites this morning were just above the 0.3 mark in colour chart so another water change about 5 gallons out of the 10 gallons in the tank. Now they are between 0.1 and 0.3 so a little better. Added more ammo lock as the ammonia read as 0.50 as well and now it is down to 0.25. Added cycle directly to filter media and there is a bubble stone bubblin' away. Mr. Tailer is active and begging for food but I'm limiting the grub I put in for him. The temp is sitting around 72 degrees and cleaned some of the gravel during the water change.
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Re: First time using ammo lock in a cycling tank.
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2010, 06:47:06 AM »

Saving some "old" water is good, same with the gravel.
This is how I will move our goldies into the new tank tomorrow:
Bought a 80 l plastic-storage container, will fill it with about 50 l "old" water, 20 l fesh water, conditioner, Superchlor, Stability and right pH and temp, airstone. Scoop fishies with a jug into it.
Will keep the gravel, slightly rinsed in the rest of the water, the plants and decorations. Empty the old tank, put the new one up and add some more gravel, aquascape and fill it with fesh water ( conditioned like usual ) and water and fishies from the container...and will add Stability every day for the coming week.
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