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axwell2010
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Black moors chasing
« on: December 10, 2010, 10:30:47 PM »

Hi, I have 2 black moors and a demekin in a 10 gallon tank. I've had them for almost a month now and I've noticed that nibbler keeps chasing anchor around (these are the 2 black moors lol). I've oly noticed it today, before then they were fine, and was wandering if anyone had any ideas as to what the problem was?? They're both the same size roughly so don't think it's a case of big fish bullying little fish.

Any ideas will be appreciated!!
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 10:32:47 PM »

Hmm, well firstly your tank is too small. And it looks like "spawning" behaviour...how old are you fish?
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2010, 10:35:00 PM »

I'm not sure how old they are. The fish themselves are roughly 2 inches long each. When they get bigger I'll obviously get a bigger tank. Do u know how I can tell for sure if it's spawning??
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2010, 10:38:37 PM »

I'm no expert. There are definitely better people to ask than me on these forums. Waiting for their responses would be best. If you look at the 2 fishes, and if you can see small pimple thingies near the gills of one of the fish, you can probably conclude that it's spawning. The pimple like things appear when the males start breeding. Also, do you live in the southern hemisphere? If yes, than it might be spawning 'cause warmer weather normally triggers spawning.
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2010, 10:41:15 PM »

Ok, thanks for replying anyway!!
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2010, 10:46:13 PM »

When fish are overcrowded they can get a bit territorial. Smiley
Your tank is too small for the 3 fish.  You only have enough room for 1 moor in it at this time.
I also do not think it is spawning behavior since your fish are small and not old enough to spawn yet, but they could be just playing too. 
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2010, 11:54:52 PM »

I'm thinking, if it is spawning or something similar, could that be induced by an increase in temp?? Because I've recently increased the temperature of the tank by a few degrees over the past week to get it warmer as my flat is quite cold. Just something that I thought I'd mention.
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2010, 12:03:53 AM »

goldfish are coldwater fish.  They prefer temperatures of around 65-68.  The increase temperature could induce spawning type behavior. Smiley  However, I do keep my tanks around 72 degrees, and with egg bodied fish like your moors they would do better in constant temperatures instead of great flucuations.  What  is the temp in your tank?
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2010, 12:08:21 AM »

It's 64F now. My flat is really cold and the windows were poorly insulated until they got sorted out today, so the tank was previously about 59-60F maybe?? This is just because of the sudden snow and cold weather we got where I live. Think the temp has increased around 3-4F in the past 7 days.
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2010, 12:18:13 AM »

Yep, I think you solved the mystery then... Wink  They are in the mood for spawning.
Look closely at the gills do either one have tiny white pimples?  The chinese call them "breeding stars". Wink
Even if you have 2 girls or 2 boys they will still display spawning behavior. Smiley
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2010, 12:40:05 AM »

It's hard to say. I see a few little white dots, like maybe 3 that I can make out, but I'll have to maybe take a closer look to be sure. I'll keep you posted tho!!
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2010, 12:51:32 AM »

do you have a flashlight? or a magnifier?
You could use either one or both to look closer at your fish! Smiley
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2010, 12:59:59 AM »

Congratz, it's spawning!
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2010, 01:25:16 AM »

My Beta has a spotlight, so got each of my black moors in a little jug and put them under the spotlight and nibbler, the one doing the chasing, seems to have some clear white spots on its body =D
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2010, 01:36:36 AM »

Oooh, how exciting!!!
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2010, 04:40:35 AM »

On the body? I certainly hope you meant on the gill covers...

Anyway, later when you'll "obviously get a bigger tank", don't get one that would suit their new size, like, if they'd be 3-4 inches and you'd get like a 20 gal, or something. Buy them something big, and GOOD. 30-40 gallons would be ideal.
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2010, 05:01:25 AM »

I agree with Nossie, those "breeding tubercules" only appear on the males gill cover.

If you see the white spots on the body OMG it could be ich or another parasite.  Needs to be treated asap.
But before treating you must perform a 50% water change.
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2010, 03:16:33 AM »

It was on the gill covers. I've had fish with ich before so know full well what to look out for, don't worry!!
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2010, 05:26:39 AM »

Yay! Congrats! It's a boy! Wink
If the other one has smooth gill plates then that's a girl!!
You might want to keep an eye out for eggs!! Smiley
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2010, 06:21:21 AM »

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Yay! Congrats! It's a boy! Wink
If the other one has smooth gill plates then that's a girl!!
You might want to keep an eye out for eggs!! Smiley

WOOHOO maybe the next baby shower, lol
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2010, 09:28:22 AM »

I hope not, unless he gets a bigger tank!  I can't see all those fish in a 5 gallon! Sad
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Re: Black moors chasing
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2010, 10:12:49 AM »

Pretty sure the fry wouldn't survive in such a small tank in the first place.
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