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ILoveFish19
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what else works?
« on: June 27, 2010, 05:08:50 PM »

can you use anything else then tanks?
I herd a story from my Mom she said she had a fish bowl & a Goldfish she said she clean'd it everyweek & it lived for Seven years.
Do, big glass jars work?
thanks everyone! Cheesy
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Mindemae
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 05:55:15 PM »

It makes me really upset when people say things like "oh I had a goldfish live such and such years in just a bowl".
And my answer to that is: Your goldfish didn't live, it just existed.  A good analogy to that would be if you kept your large pet dog in a closet.  Would he be happy?  No! he would be forced to live in inadequate living conditions!
A goldfish can grow up to 12 inches.  It needs room to swim.  It is not able to breathe oxygen from the air.  It's only source of oxygen is from what you provide in it's home.  A goldfish takes in oxygen only from the water it lives in, through it's gills.  Your mom's goldfish might have lived 30 years or more if it had had a different living environment.  At seven years it should have been at the prime of it's life.  IMO it's life was cut short by inadequate living conditions. Sad
And no a jar isn't a good place to house a goldfish either!  You have to have good surface air exchange.  A jar is too narow at the top.  You want somethig like an aquarium that is longer than it is taller for good air exchange.
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 06:13:53 PM »

oh, okay Smiley thanks Cheesy but I also herd gold fish only grow as big as there home is but I do agree a Jar would NOT be a good home I use to have a pretty blue fish named Samy but then He died Sad(Bevause my mom forgot to Feed him thats why I need to buy my own fish) but I can't afford a Tank but i'm already buying my goldfish what do I do?Huh
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 06:30:46 PM »

Don't buy a goldfish, buy a betta instead.  A betta is pretty and it can breathe oxygen from the air.  A goldfish cannot.  You will see your goldfish hanging and gulping for air at the top of the bowl and that means it is suffocating!  A betta if it doesn't have enough oxygen in it's water can go to the top and take a breath at least.
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 09:20:07 PM »

Alright heres my two cents, and Ima speak from experience.

I had two fish in a bowl. they died within days. I had Sonorus in a bowl for two years. And she was suffocating. Yes, I was suffocating my fish. So I bought a twenty gallon and shes been fine..


Here is my absolute BEST advice:     Wait.

You obviously do not have the funds nor the equiptment to properly house a goldfish, let alone two. Wait. Wait until you can afford a tank and aeration. I got ten gallon for 100$.


Please Please Please for the love of fish and all that is purple wait.

If you must have a fish, Buy a betta. they are just as pretty and just as interesting. Please dont store your fish in a little bowl. Its painfull to watch and they will die of ammonia poisoning. Not ammonia burns. Ammonia poisoning.


Please? For me? For fish?
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 12:14:56 AM »

Yes, please buy a betta.  Goldfish grow quite large despite their container.  Keeping a goldie in a bowl is like trying to keep a german shepherd in a puppy crate for the rest of its life.  Goldfish can go blind and get brain damage from living in too small of a container, and they suffer horribly before they die.  Bettas, on the other hand, come in beautiful colors, love living in a bowl, are easy to care for, and have a lot of cool tank decorations.  Check out Google Images for pictures of bettas and betta bowls.  They're really popular nowadays.  They can certainly live in a jar.  Besides, if you did have a big tank and wanted to get a goldie, you would have to wait two weeks for the tank to cycle to keep the fish healty.  With bettas, all you do is buy a bowl and your fun decorations, some food, and a plastic bottle of betta water, and you are good to go.  Oh, and do remember to feed your finned friend this time! Wink
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 08:08:12 AM »

You should never, ever get a bowl. No matter what they say in the pet shop, or anywhere else.
A goldfish needs a minimum of 20 gallons of water to be healthy and happy (add 10 gal for each additional fish). And since you wanted two, you need a 30 gallon at least. And I'd say, that if you can't afford this now, get a betta, and wait for the day when you can afford something even bigger Smiley

A good rule with keeping goldfish is to get the biggest tank you can afford, this will allow your fish to grow, and it will give you the possibility of getting more fish in case you fall in love with some of them c: Yes... so wait.
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 09:58:07 AM »

must agree with everyone else here.

i love the fact that you really want fish and are being sensible enough to come here and chat to everyone, but as the other said (and i agree) i think you should wait a while (if your heart is set on some goldies or fancys) if your just looking for a nice fish that isnt as much work, as the others said betta are the answer. i have 6 orandas (4 of them are 5 inches and 2 are 3 inches) they have always had planty of room, food, oxygen, plants to destroy haha gravel to dig in and wake me up with. i think a bowl isnt a good place for them. as Nicole said, poor living conditions can destroy perfectly good and beautiful fish.

if i were you i'd have a serious think about how much time you have to dedicate towards them. there isnt a day that goes by when i dont check my tank, or have to do mantinence etc (and i work full time 6 days a week) it is a hard slog sometimes but it depends on how much you want it to work. i love my babies and wouldnt be without them as im sure the others would agree.

sorry for the long one there guys haha
 
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 12:29:35 PM »

Hey everyone! I'm getting a tank Smiley 10 gallon I wan't goldfish more than anything! Cheesy Samual & Caitlyn will be so happy!
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 12:31:32 PM »

OOPS! I ment 20 gallon Smiley Fish are very inportant the deserv to have a good home! I'll also buy some deco for the tank as well Smiley (Already have peebles Cheesy)
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 01:49:01 PM »

Well, congratulations!
You'll have to post some pictures when you get it all set up! Wink
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 10:47:48 PM »

I was shivering and my heart ached when I started to read through this tread... keeping a goldfish in a bowl or a JAR !!!!

But now I am happy that you're getting a 20 gal tank. Well, all was explained why our beloved goldfish MUST have all that space...

Be happy with your happy fishes and please post some pics soon Wink
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2010, 05:39:04 AM »

ahhh glad your getting sorted now Smiley your little fish will be so happy!
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2010, 04:06:29 PM »

Lol I know! I'm saving up my money for a tank & some Goldfish  (Goldfish are easy to save up) & Food Smiley I'll post lots of pics Cheesy
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 08:47:24 PM »

Good desicion! Smiley I'm very very happy you went against the bowl or jar Smiley
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 02:55:33 AM »

Wonderful! Smiley I'm very glad to hear that you're getting an adequate tank Smiley
Be sure to get good filtration and a little air stone too! Grin The stones are really cheap, and the air pumps for them are usually no big bullet in the wallet either Smiley
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 06:37:23 AM »

This is good news, I join the happy bunch Grin
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 11:36:49 AM »

yay were all happy haha *and all the fish are happy to* Grin
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 06:09:59 PM »

Don't forget to wait for the tank to cycle before adding your fish!
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2010, 02:34:19 PM »

Yeah, at least past the stage with ammonia and the worst nitrites! D:

Get yourself a water test kit and check these parameters daily, and "feed" the empty tank with some fish flakes or shrimp to get the cycle going Smiley
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2010, 09:42:28 PM »

just so u know u dont need air stones( save u some money to get them faster) but they can make your tank look better. just make sure your filter puts air bubbles in the tank by lowering the water level
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2010, 07:08:29 AM »

They're so cheap anyway that you don't save much leaving them away d: Besides, with goldfish, it's always better with a bit of extra oxygen Smiley
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 04:59:49 PM »

Also the goldfish just ENJOY the airstone bubbles, like us humans enjoy a spa bath Grin
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2010, 07:16:54 PM »

well everyone no fish intill December but thats completley okay! they will be here at Christmas woowho!
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2010, 07:39:16 PM »

Not to worry,  Wink December will be here sooner as we think....
Sure you will have a wonderful Xmas then. And in the meantime your tank can cycle, cycle  Grin

What kind of goldfish will you get?
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2010, 06:04:25 PM »

I'm thinking just to start with regular goldfish then move on & get more as I go Cheesy
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2010, 04:16:31 AM »

The regular ones, do you mean Common and Comets?

I agree with them as they are the hardiest variety. They are really tough little guys. Wink
All other ones, as they are "man made", are more sensitive to environmental issues.
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2010, 04:26:08 AM »

the one thing u can use is a rubber made container u can get ones that are 20 gallons
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2010, 04:34:40 AM »

A rubber made container ? ? ?
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Re: what else works?
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2010, 11:02:33 PM »

Yeah, a rubberMAID brand tub or one simular.
You can get them at Walmart etc.  They are cheap and you can hang a power filter on them.
I transport my fish in them.  The only problem would be that you wouldn't be able to see the fish very good from a side view, just from the top looking down. Undecided
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