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lreiden
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Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« on: July 05, 2011, 08:42:53 AM »

I purchased a very small supposed "red-cap oranda" at petsmart the other day.  I call him smooch because he's got orange on his lips, almost looks like a mustache...he's (or she) is very small and young and I know it takes a while for their wen's to develop...does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda for comparison to my guy?  Its pretty obvious to me that the people at PetSmart (for the most part) have no idea what they are talking about so I just want to know what type of fish I bought. thanks!
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 03:12:03 PM »

Orandas usually have headgrowth from the very beginning, my Baby is barely an inch long and she already has very nice headgrowth. My cousin also had a baby red-cap and this one had headgrowth as well, even if that was smaller than Baby. However, it lost the red "cap" and turned all white, the headgrowth didn't grow at all so far even if the fish did quite a lot Tongue

If your fish has a flat head, it's probably not an oranda in the end. You could always try posting photos and we could check on your fish instead of having you compare to some googled photos ;P
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 03:35:43 PM »

aww...well I'll def snap a pic tonight...even if it isnt an oranda thats OK even though thats what I wanted.  At this point I think anyone on this board would know more about goldfish than the people at Petsmart...I really hope what I have is an oranda because they're definetely my favorite but even if it isnt, he's in my tank now and isnt going anywhere (hopefully  Roll Eyes) Smiley
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2011, 02:19:51 AM »

If it's only a red patch on the head, they call the color pattern tancho, in Japan, meaning "Red crane", as the birds Wink Pretty common for fantails, have one myself at my parents' place! Cheesy
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2011, 06:45:18 AM »

In that case I'll be changing my signature. Tongue
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2011, 08:53:50 AM »

I posted pictures in the "pictures" section if you'd like to give me your opinion about what type of fish you think I have Smiley  I am starting to think they are orandas but just not the red-cap kind?  Then again...what do I know? haha
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2011, 02:19:57 PM »

Those fancy goldfish breeds can be tricky to identify before you've learned them by heart. AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG! Shocked
As already mentioned in the photo thread, one of them is for sure a little oranda Smiley Note though, that you never know how the headgrowth will end up, on some pet shop quality fish they won't grow it too big. It'll just look like they have a very thick skull xD
Feeding them lots of protein (live foods: worms, shrimp etc...) will encourage a nice headgrowth though and make the fish grow bigger and stronger allover!
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 02:39:07 PM »

I bought blood worms for them the other day and have been feeding them a little of those as well as some peas...they LOOOVE them. they're such little mooches.  Smiley I always have to keep myself from feeding them!! My boyfriend doesnt understand my obsession, haha.
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2011, 02:53:44 PM »

On a side note Nossie, I was reading a thread that said  it isnt good to feed blood worms often, is this true?  Sorry for the million questions, if you dont feel like answering I will sift through the forum Smiley
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 12:37:49 PM »

(I LOOVE ANSWERING QUESTIONS <3)

That's crap Wink I've read in a book that you should NEVER feed your fish anything but store-bought processed foods, no live foods, no nothing else. Because it could contain disease. Well, question is, do you want strong and healthy fish, or do you want to be over protective about their diet? (Same text said, don't have gravel or plants too...)
A couple of times a week is usually a good idea Smiley I feed my fish pellets in the morning and evening, and vegetables or live foods for lunch/dinner, so far, it's working. But you should find your own feeding schedule, keeping in mind that goldfish need food several times a day in small amounts since they have no stomach to store the food in.
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 01:19:22 PM »

I have the same general attitude about all of my other types of animals, I wouldnt be overly concerned about the goldies diet except that they are little and I want them to grow as big and strong as possible.  I am going to buy the hikari special diet for young goldfish and/or the one for the orandas. I'm also going to try feeding them zucchini one of these days, i'll let you know how that goes Smiley
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 04:38:08 PM »

My fish will eat 2 peas faster than me but I could have run 5 marathons before they touch broccoli.
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Re: Does anyone have a picture of a very young red-cap oranda?
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 04:31:35 AM »

Yeah, it's never good to be overprotective. You know how some moms are: MEDICINE AS SOON AS THERE'S A HINT OF A COLD.
Very bad for the immune system of the child.

My goldfish love zucchini Smiley I usually boil it a little before I feed it to them so that they'll go softer and easier to eat Cheesy (and also so that they'll sink)
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