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Novaguin
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What's it called?
« on: December 18, 2010, 11:54:48 PM »

What's the thing that makes bubbles called? Is it called an airstone? Also, I've heard you gotta buy airline tubing and an air pump to make the thing work.
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April
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2010, 02:02:37 AM »

Airstone, bubble bar or bubble ball yes, all airstones. The basic ones are inexpensive but are fragile and will break down over time about 6 or 7 months and I had to replace mine. Also once it is attached to the airline tubing, don't try to twist or remove it - it will probably break. There is also these cool bubble discs that lay flat on the bottom of the tank. All require an airline and pump. I have seen more expensive bubble bars that are supposed to create very fine mist but haven't tried them yet.
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2010, 02:44:20 AM »

Yep, April covered it. I prefer the airstones which create a little big bigger bubbles than those other ones where the air is like a sort of mist.
Fishies like the stronger bubbles like in a spa, having their scales and fins massaged.

There are also submersible lights available, including the bubble bar.
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 04:17:09 AM »

I bought a bubble bar for this current tank of mine, however, the bubbles were so ridiculously small and useless in such a big place, especially since I already had another, stronger air stone Tongue

And yes, you of course need air line to lead the air into the stone. Various pumps are available as well, sometimes with several valves to be connected to air lines Smiley The whole thing is rather cheap.
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2010, 11:57:23 PM »

Does anyone here use a submersible air pump? They look interesting and are apparently silent Cheesy
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2010, 05:46:15 AM »

I've seen some varieties, and I guess that since they exist and are sold, you could try one out Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2010, 05:49:18 AM »

Yeah I might try one out - I was just wondering if it was worth it because they do cost a little more than regular ones.
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2010, 06:48:56 AM »

I'm looking at getting  battery operated air pumps in case the electricity should go out! Smiley
That's next on my list! Wink
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2011, 09:41:54 AM »

Was trying to find this answer but can't find what exactly I may need.  This is the closest thread to the topic so I will ask here if that ok. 

I have my old air pump that use to be in a 20g tank, I have already bought this long flexible bubble tube for my 75g tank but the pump is not strong enough for the tube.  Its barely pushing the bubbles out of just one side of it after a week of it being in there. 

What type or size pump do you guys recommend for this size tank?  The tube is maybe 2 feet long btw.  I also have an old bubble wand that would work with the old pump, its only like a 6" long one, so I can add it also for extra bubbles. Smiley 
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2011, 10:27:56 AM »

Well if you go to the pet store most air pumps will have a rating for what size tanks they are best used for and how many gallons per hour they pump.
I think though if you have a 75 gallon tank you will be looking for an air pump that turns over approximately 150 gallons per hour Smiley
All brands of air pumps will work fine - but the cheaper ones are generally louder and will not last as long.

So yeah your probably best to go have a look at the pet store! I am sure you will find something there Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2011, 10:50:49 AM »

Don't scrimp now on an air pump and get a proper new one for your size tank.  Goldies need lot's of air circulation and bubbles bursting at the top of the tank for good gas exchange from the water and O2 from the air. 
goldies need alot of oxygen to stay healthy as the disolved oxygen in their tank is used in great amounts and they cannot breathe air from the surface. Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011, 11:50:31 AM »

Yes, I read that they need lots and lots of air bubbles. Smiley
I will get a new one from the store then that does the 150gph, that's what I wasn't sure about, ty.  Didn't know if you went by the size tube or the size tank.  Will have 2 pumps with one smaller air tube and the long one with the larger pump so I can more or less make the bubbles go all the way across the back for my babies when I get them.  Patience is hard to come by right now. lol

The aquarium addict in me is going stir crazy with the tank being so bare looking.  Grin
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2011, 04:43:54 PM »

You can always buy one pump and get some valves to connect to a few air lines! Smiley That would save a lot of money, and it would work perfectly Wink
I did so in my tank at the start, but I had one air stone, and one of those strange "sponge"tubes, which wasn't powerful enough at all! So I ended up removing it. I think the spray bar for the external filter works really well anyway! Cheesy Especially with an extra filter and one pretty big air stone running Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2011, 04:52:19 PM »

I did finally get the pump.  Bought the largest one they had and it said for a 30-60 gallon tank, but that was the largest so I had no other choice.  We were worried it wouldn't do the job but WOW did it do the job great!  It has two places to hook up two tubes to it so we hooked up the long wand and the other one we had that is just a bit smaller and Holy bubbles everywhere!  They run all the way across the back and the fish went crazy.  They were always swimming a little here and there but once we plugged that bad boy in it was a whole new show.  They are swimming and hunting for food constantly, they make me tired just watching it, lol. 

Btw, we haven't lost any fish yet out of the feeders we used.  Wish I had known about how to cycle without fish before we got them but they have been fun to watch during the process and the kids have named their favorite ones already.  One fish each so I guess I may have to keep some of them.  Will they go with fancy goldfish or no?  They are just goldfish feeder fish, comets I think.
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2011, 05:32:48 AM »

Bel, they can develop in beautiful goldies. You can keep them together with other fast swimmers Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 05:57:56 AM »

Yeah I think that commons/comets really begin to look much more stunning when they are older. My comet is starting to get white markings on him and his tail is getting so long and beautiful! Cheesy

You can successfully keep them with fancies. I keep one comet with a pearlscale and a fantail with no problems whatsoever. But I guess it does come down to the individual fish and how much aggression it shows to other fish and how greedy it is Cheesy
The biggest problem is making sure the fancies get enough food at dinner time, as comets/commons are much faster swimmers. So I would probably say it is okay to keep them with faster swimming fancies Smiley

By the way are you planning on keeping the feeders or taking some of them back to the store? (sorry if you mentioned this somewhere else I just don't remember reading it) Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2011, 06:34:18 AM »

For a beginner, it's easiest to keep cigar shaped fish together Smiley
Fantails are a fancy variety that's very fast and greedy, so they would probably work Wink
But you already had more than enough fish for the tank, so maybe you should just keep the feeders you have for now? Note: 10 gallons per fish.
They will probably grow up to be gorgeous too Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2011, 09:46:15 AM »

@ Abbie- we were going to take all the fish back and trade them out for some other kinds of goldfish.  But 2 of them might have to stay if they survive, kids named them already and all. Smiley  The LFS owner said we can bring them back at any time or trade any fish if we don't like it or if it doesn't work well with what we have now and later on.  Nice guy!

I was thinking what you said already, that they are fast swimmers and the other goldfish I want (Ranchu for sure)  are slower I think.  But since the LFS owner said I can take any in that I don't want to keep then I could always take the feeders (only2 staying anyway) back if the new fish aren't getting enough food from being slower.  I just didn't know if they were even capable of being in the same tank and getting along. 

Was thinking maybe 7 fish altogether in the 75g tank.  This sound ok?
2 being the feeders if they can stay
5 of some fancy ones, I like the Ranchu, redcap oranda, and I would really love one of the panda ones.  Would these work together?  Any other suggestions you guys/gals have would be great!
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2011, 11:28:23 AM »

You definitely can't put a ranchu with comets, the poor thing wouldn't get any food Undecided
If you have comets, keep more comets, commons or shubunkins. Possibly fantails or orandas.
Do you know that orandas, due to their round shape, need an especially varied diet? Containing both vegetables and live foods?
In that way, fancy goldfish are harder to keep since you need to take more care with what you're feeding them.
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 12:13:43 PM »

I didn't know that about the fancies but will get them whatever they need.  Had to feed the saltwater fish pickty types of food so this should be no problem.  Guess those little feeders will ALL be going back to the pet store though since I surely want a ranchu. Cry
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 01:03:14 PM »

Bel,
It is really best to keep dorsaless goldfish separate from ones that have dorsals.
The comets, commons and shubunkins would be best kept together because of their slim body shape.
Next the egg shaped fish should be kept together, such as, Ryukins, Orandas, Moors etc.
Next your dorasaless goldfish would be, ranchus, lionheads, lionchus, bubble eyes.
The only goldfish that might be compatable with your comet feeders would be maybe a few fantails.
The feeders/comets tend to be boisterous and very fast swimmers.  Not so much when they are small but when large they can be quite aggressive especially during spawning.  They would give lets say and oranda nothing but misery.
 
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 03:40:34 PM »

Not to mention that some comets/commons may end up bullying the slower swimmers, causing you more pain when having to treat fish with various infections due to physical trauma :/
So pick varieties that can fend for themselves and "fight" for food Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 03:49:14 PM »

I wouldn't want that for the new fish so names or not those little feeders are going back once the tank is finished cycling.  

Wait!  I swear I just thought about this.  My stepdaughter said her and her Mom were at the pet store last weekend looking at fish to put in a fish pond they have outside.  They haven't bought any new fish yet but I could find out when it will be ready for them and she could keep some of these for the pond right?  At least the one she named, Tiger, that one is adorable.  

One more question though,  are you saying you can't mix Orandas with ranchus at all either?  
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 05:13:33 PM »

If you make sure the ranchus get food. Ranchus have no dorsal fin which makes them slower than orandas.
I have to make sure my fish Orbitz gets food because Titan is like some shubunkin/fantail goldfish so he is much faster. Smiley
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 06:08:45 PM »

Got ya! I just don't want one hurting the other but I can hand feed them if that's what it takes to make sure one of them gets plenty then.  Now I gatta read up on what they will need to eat and such.   Wink
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2011, 03:50:19 AM »

In case you're wondering, I have ONE oranda, in a tank with... many other fish. She is the biggest, strongest and FIERCEST! xD
Really, she even tries to steal food from the pleco, and she's always first to the feeding scene, so you'll have to make sure your orandas won't be pushing the ranchu around when eating Smiley

And having it like this, there's a risk that you'd end up overfeeding one fish, just to feed the other!
I noticed I was doing that a while ago, so I'm trying to give them less, but it's pretty hard since I've got a few moors there too, and they always eat slower than everyone else Undecided There's really more to consider than just... which fish won't bully each other.
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2011, 05:41:17 AM »

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In case you're wondering, I have ONE oranda, in a tank with... many other fish. She is the biggest, strongest and FIERCEST! xD

You really crack me up Nossie! Cheesy
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2011, 06:49:47 AM »

Maybe it's best to get non-dorsal fish with each other, other egg shaped fish together and streamlined fish together and not mix them Smiley Of course you can but that would be the recommendation and the easiest way especially for people newer to the world of fish keeping. Though moors have dorsal fins  Undecided
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2011, 08:50:10 AM »

Yeah it probably is best to just stick to commets, commons and shubunkins in your tank.
It can be done and I have had no problems whatsoever! But I guess there is a chance so maybe it is best not to take the risk?
Also if there was ever a problem I would be prepared to buy another fish tank straight away to ensure none of my babies get hurt Smiley
I know you can give them back to the pet shop but trust me once you and your kids get attached, that's not such an easy option Wink
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Re: What's it called?
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2011, 10:18:22 AM »

I do have extra tanks in the case of an emergency with any fish (10g and a 20g) and filters for both, along with extra pumps and air stones (pumps were too small for the 75g tank).   Need to get the tanks cleaned up though, they are being used to store all the tank stuff in atm.  All the supplies can really start to add up as I'm sure most of you know.  Wink

Hopefully I can work it out like I said to get them in that pond.  Even if I have to keep them until they are a bit bigger.  We can still visit them also. 

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