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Goldiegirl
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Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« on: November 20, 2010, 12:31:17 PM »

I've noticed that the lower the water temp is, the more vivid my goldies' coloring is. I want to lower my water temp to achieve better vibrancy, but so far I havn't found anything that works long term. Even with the hood and light on their coloring only seems to pale. When I first buy my fishies their colors are super loud and well defined, but when I put them in my tank (which is at least 10 degrees warmer than the store water) they get super washed out.

Is there some way you can chill the water for this very reason? Or am I stuck with washed out colors?
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2010, 12:42:03 PM »

Don't you think you and the shop may have different lights in your tanks? Actually, that matters pretty much!
I had the 10 gallon and my fish under a normal "kitchen-light" fixture and it made my babies appear really pale, especially the red/white one! I was worrying that she may be losing her beautiful red colors! But when I set the 83 gal up, I added a kind of plant lamp that will define reds and blues in fish, and she has never looked more gorgeous Wink All my red fish look wonderful under that light! It has a light pink hue to it Smiley For details, it's by the brand Archadia and it's a tropical lamp of some sort, if I remember it correctly. My water is kept on a 25 C (77 F) degree  level, give or take.
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2010, 12:43:38 PM »

I have never heard of water temperature having anything do do with color.
pH can play a factor, more acidic water can bring out more vibrant colors than more alkaline.
There is also color enhancing food you can buy that will bring out more vibrant coloring.
I wouldn't try and change the water temperature too much. Great flucuations in temperature can be very stressful to fish.
My fish have very vibrant color deep deep reds and my water temperatures are around 70F-72F.
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2010, 12:58:11 PM »

I am sorry but I really do not see any relation  Undecided
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2010, 01:35:31 PM »

I've been feeding Mr. Tailer Nutrafin Max sinking pellets and over about a month he's brightened up in colour because of the natural enhancers in the food. Beta Carotene being a main ingredient and making him even more orange Cheesy

I have to agree with Nossie regarding the type of light. There is considerable difference in type of light bulbs; incandescent (warmer tones) and LED's (both warmer and cooler tones) depending on the end of the spectrum the light bulb emits, you get varying degrees of colour.

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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2010, 02:11:33 PM »

Very true. My light's an LED, but they always looks super pale under it...moreso than when it's off! First thing in the morning when it's really cold everyone looks very bright, but as the day warms up they tend to get lighter. I think temperature DOES have a direct relationship to coloring. One time I was floating one of my fish in a bag in water that was colder so she would adjust to the temperature. As the bag's water changed more to the water of my outdoor pond, my fish's color grew darker and more vivid. This has happened to me on several occasions. It may have something to do with the altitude up here in the mountains. Haha I don't know why that is. I've tried changing the food many times and that has helped a bit, but not drastically.

I know that the shops have different lighting because as they take the fish out of the water it's color changes right away! When I first got Panda she looked yellow. Now she's orange Tongue
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2010, 02:35:50 PM »

I have a LED light in the smaller tank, and that made my red goldfishes look pretty pale too actually! But it made my white fish glow.
And since you said that they look paler when the light is on, I feel like the culprit is found Wink
I wouldn't meddle too much with the temperature anyway since it's pretty hard to lower temperature as the tank will be adjusting to the temp in the room after a while either way.
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2010, 04:55:24 PM »

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I am sorry but I really do not see any relation  Undecided

simple physics Wink Objects according to their temerature absorb certain colours of the light spectrum. This is how we perceive colour.
=> different light spectrum, different temps equals different colour.


Goldiegirl, check out the type of your light and if you want to get the water temperature down ( slowly ) you can put a floating bag with ice cubes in, or a waterbottle filled with ice cubes wich I'd put in another water filled bag, so the fishies cannot touch the icy bottle Smiley
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2010, 07:54:23 PM »

Thank you all! Yes, I try to keep the temp steady...don't wanna mess with their stress levels too much.

Nossie: Thanks for the info! So perhaps the light DOES alter color to some degree. They do look a tad darker when it's off as well.

Hanna: Interesting education on the way we perceive color! Cheesy found that fascinating and informational.

So my best bet is to either get a new light or start new food. Which would be best?
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 03:57:22 AM »

How about trying a combination of both? Unless it would be very expensive for you to get new bulbs Smiley In that case you could try with some color enhancing foods like special pellets, krill or carrot Smiley
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 09:40:12 PM »

Oooh good idea! Does carrot really enhance color that much??? I don't like looking in the tank and seeing my fishies look like little ghosts...still adorable yes, but not extraordinarily vibrant.

Looked into the lightbulb...it was pretty much out of my price range for now, but maybe I'll add it to my xmas list for my fishies Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 10:04:00 PM »

I bought krill today and fed it tou our darlings, with carrot and they were crazy  Grin lol Roll Eyes

I also managed lately that I can handfeed all of them  Cheesy
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2010, 03:31:24 AM »

I have some color enhancing pellets and I've been feeding those for months! My red fantail is glowing in the water! And under the LED light he looked orange with white belly Wink

It would actually be enough with color enhancing pellets and krill, but generally, yes, carrots contain carotene than naturally enhances the colors of the fish, just like krill! Smiley
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2010, 06:56:11 PM »

Hey there guys, I am fairly new to having fishies my tank has been operational for 3 days now.
I set the tank up according to all the info i have read in book and the advise from the pet store. I have a 250 ltr tank with about one and a half inches of gravel, seven diffrent fresh water plants with about 50 differnt sprouts and some river rock structures, this has not over crouded the tank though.

I have Aqua one Aquis 1250 series 2 bio and mechanical filter witch cycles 1400 ltrs per hour. I have 2 mirror comet of 4 1/2 inches long one white one orange, 2 red cap comets of 3 inches and 2 gold comets of 3 inches.

I have added prime for chiorine, chioramine ect. stability for good bacteria, conditioning salts, all as instructed by advise and bottle insruction. Food I feed twise a day only what they eat in a small period of time, consist of omega one diet sinking pellet, blood worms and blime shrimp, is there any thing else i need, how can i cool tank down to nice comfy 22 c. thanking you in advance  Grin

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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2010, 04:13:21 AM »

I can't see any info about what kind of fish you have OR how warm the water is for now, please post that too Smiley

I would still give you the advice to leave the temp alone.
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Re: Cold water = vibrant coloring...so how do I get my water colder???
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2010, 03:21:47 PM »

Jackno7, as long as temp doesn't go over 28, all is fine. If it's getting hotter, then I'd start the bottle trick.
But the most important is that the temp doesn't fluctuate.

At the moment we have 28 cels outside and inside we've got the ceiling fans going.
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