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Diingleberri
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HOT water
« on: September 16, 2011, 04:33:40 AM »

I have to put this out there and see what you guys think, because my friend thinks I'm breaking a commandment or something.  So, I live in Houston, and it gets so hot during the summer time.  I got into a habit of taking my three goldies out of the tank during water changes.  I put them into a smaller ten gallon using water from the large aquarium that I siphen off.  I do a weekly 50% water change, but when I go to fill it back up the temp jumps to the mid 80's because all the tap water is freaking hot down here.  I take a half bag of ice dump it into the tank along with the dechlorinator when I'm refilling it.  I allow the tank to run for whatever time it takes for the temp to get back down to at least 72 degrees (about an hour if I use the big fan on it) and then I put my little buddies back in.  My friend seems to think that taking the fish out of the tank is a major sin worthy of fishy damnation.  To me, it's logical to think that the shock from such a temp change is greater and more harmful than the stress of taking them out during the water change.  What do you guys think?  Do you have a better way of going about it?
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Goldiegirl
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Re: HOT water
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 06:58:39 PM »

You're right, 85 degrees + is a bit warm for a goldfish's liking...but at the same time, it does stress out the fish to be moved every week...it seems as though you're caught between a rock and a hard place.  Undecided

I'm not really sure how you conduct your water changes. If you're like me, you may use a large "fish bucket" to syphon the dirty tank water into, dump it out, then refill it with clean water, treat it, then dump it back in the main tank. If this is what you do, maybe you can try chilling the water while it's still in the bucket? Then once it cools down you can dump it back in. Then you won't have to move the fish at all. The big fan is also a good idea, like you said. By the by, I know that floating frozen water bottles can also help bring down the water temperature. Then you may not have to worry about treating the water...just replace them with new ones when they get dethawed.

You have a tricky situation there! It must be hard living in a state where the temperatures get so high.  Shocked But, I wouldn't worry too much about your friend....you're just doing the best that you can given the situation. Maybe someone on this forum will chime in who has more experience with this problem than myself.
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Nicole
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Re: HOT water
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 07:48:42 PM »

We use a seperate ice tray and put in ice cubes with water conditioner.  We then put those in the tank to cool it down.
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Nossie
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Re: HOT water
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 04:11:48 AM »

I think it's much safer for the fish if you'd be cooling the water before putting it into the tank. It really is stressful for the fish having to move every week (or however often you're doing the water changes), they need time to settle in a new place, and get used to the water parameters. I don't think that what you're doing is a terrible fishy sin, but I do think you could try and be more gentle to your fish about it Smiley (I on the other hand live in a very cold place, so my problem sometimes is that the tap water comes out being like 17 degrees celsius while it stays on 26 in the main tank... :/)
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Dragonii
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Re: HOT water
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 11:18:17 AM »

Two ideas.
First, low tech. Get a Brute garbage can. Fill it with the water that you plan on using to fill the tank with the day before. Use a pump to push the water out of the can to the tank. This is kind of what is used in the world of salt water tanks. You mix the water and salt in the Brute the day before you do a water change. You can even get lids and wheels for them.
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High tech: Build a chiller. Find a small dorm fridge or small freezer, drill holes in it, coil some tubing inside of it and run the water through it slowly as you fill the tank.
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Low tech/high tech: Same idea as the fridge but you use an ice chest or Rubbermaid tub full of ice and water. Just drop a coiled 25' hose into the freezing cold ice water and let your water pass through it slowly. I will be nice and cool by the time it comes out the other end. This would be the most cost effective idea. you can get a plastic tub and a hose at Family Dollar for real cheap and a bag of ice isn't but a couple of dollars or freeze ice in plastic bottles and drop those in the tub.
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Summer Time
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Re: HOT water
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 01:18:59 PM »

I don't think it's fishy sin what you're doing, but I like the Brute garbage can idea with wheels.  Let it sit for a day and then it should be room temp, same as your tank.  

Your fish are lucky to have someone who's trying so hard to keep them comfortable, healthy, and happy.  And now you're even on a goldfish forum  Wink   If you have to move them, it's better to use your hands rather than a net (if they cooperate) because a net can be hard on their scales and fins, slime coat, etc..
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Nossie
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Re: HOT water
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 03:14:07 PM »

Ah yes, good point Summertime! Smiley

I could add that some people use plastic cups as well! Make sure it's a good sized cup so that the fish will fit comfortably while you move it Smiley And no sharp edges of course!
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Summer Time
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Re: HOT water
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2011, 03:32:00 PM »

I've used a plastic cup too, with smooth edges.  I pushed the cup below the water line so that a waterfall effect was created in the cup, and the fish would flow into the cup this way, so I didn't have to chase him.
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Ron H
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Re: HOT water
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 08:07:20 PM »

yeah I do it similar to that Nossie and Summer Time, but I use a clear coloured jug, they swim into it without much worry (they really dont notice it much) and its less stressful on them and me!...
and like Nossie I have low water temps to contend with in winter with water changes but I also have the opposite in summer, my outdoor rainwater tank water is very cold in winter so I put hot water in our sink (we have two deep ones luckilly) and place the buckets of rainwater in the sinks to bring it up to temp, then add the water conditioner and adjust the ph to match the fish tank etc... I brought half a doz cheap buckets at 49 cents each, I get a production line going, works ok for now but I like Dragonii' bin idea, which may help in summer when it gets over 40 degree's C... cheers
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