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jordan
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mysick fish
« on: April 20, 2010, 02:20:37 PM »

hi

a couple of my gold fish are having trouble staying upright. this just happen 1 day i have had them for over a year now i have no idea what it is. it has been 3 days one  of them is looking better somtimes . but other times he looks bad. they want food  all the time right now. i have changed filter pads and done a huge water change. used slime coat stress any 1 have an idea.
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Nicole
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 11:07:42 PM »

It sounds like a swim bladder issue.  My suggestions would be to treat with Pimafix or another antibacterial fish medicine (check your local pet store with a fish department for details) and feed them peas for awhile.  Since this has been going on for a few days, I reccomend that you treat them immediately.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 02:17:05 AM »

Test the water first, looking for nitrates, as these could be the main reason for the swim bladder disease! However, there's no doubt that swim bladder disorder is the problem.

Treat it immediately by not feeding your fish for about 3 days and then give them frozen, shelled peas. Simply, natural frozen peas that you thaw and pop out of their shells before feeding them to your fish. Next step is to treat the water with some salt, read on the package how to dose it (and make sure that it's salt meant to treat sick fish).
Add some kind of antibiotic as well, just ask in your pet shop what'd be most suitable!

But I think that if there's a few of your fish suffering from this at once, it could be a dietary problem, and that's why it's good not to feed them for a couple of days and then give them peas, to be certain that this is the cause.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2010, 03:32:56 AM »

Nossie and Nicole confirm my thoughts about swim bladder desease.
Most times swim bladder desease is caused by  or indicates the presence of another problem.
As Nossie asvised, check your water parameters asap.
Other reasons could be constipation, serious bacterial or parasitic infection, poor diet or rapid fluctuations in temperature.
Two more reasons can be cancer or tuberculosis or a congenitally deformed bladder
We hope those are NOT the case.

Make sure your fish is not constipated, ... so no food for a couple of days. Then peas. As Nossie and Nicole mentioned. Treat with Pimafix and a good salt tonic ( follow the instructions, please )
Also check the temp and keep it stable for your fishy. Some also recommend live food as a change of diet, just ask your pet shop.

Hope this will help too,

Keep fingers crossed that your fishies will recover asap
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2010, 01:29:33 PM »

its not swim bladder i have seen that before. he is not upside down. he swims on his side for the most part. i cleared out all the decor leaned the tank out of everything now he is doing betterbut there is nothing in the tank.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 04:01:54 PM »

Swim Bladder desease does not mean that the fish MUST swim upside down only.

The symptoms are difficulty in maintaining equilibrum and abnormal swimming behaviour.

But if you are convinced it is not swim bladder desease ( I still think it is ) you should contact a vet asap.
Also you shoud isolate your fish in a hospital tank with shallow water. It provides relief for the fish. Treat with salt (sea salt from your pet shop !) Very important to follow the instructions. After 2 weeks you can return your fish into deeper water.

You mentioned you cleaned out the tank. Did you use fresh tap water or old tank water? Did you check the water parameters? How are they? How is the temp in your tank?
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 04:32:33 PM »

To come back on swim bladder problems:
Here is a list of more symptoms:
-Goldfish is floating
-floating at the top of the tank
-floating at 45 degrees
-he is swimming lobsided or upside down
-tilted position or flipped over
-fish has got uncontrolled swimming
-fish cannot swim
-broken blood vessels in its dorsal fin

Why I suggested to put your fish in a hospital tank with SHALLOW water for about 2 weeks is that deeper water puts pressure on the fishes body which can cause a bacterial or parasitical infection (primary cause) and these can cause the swim bladder problem (secondary cause)

So if you still believe it is not swim bladder, PLEASE CONTACT A VET ASAP AND TREAT ACCORDINGLY ASAP
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jordan
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 10:10:52 PM »

ya i am not feeding him i feed them peas every day but i need more i thought about the hospital tank but my lid for my 20 gall broke and i have 2 cats and 2 dogs i should just start a zoo. i will try to treat for swimbladder nomally if one of my fish get it it is gomez he eats way to much somtime i have to trap him so the other ecan eat but we will see
hanna where do u live that a vet would help out a gold fish. there is no way that would happen here. now if a had a sick saltwater fish there woulf be 3 places to go but they dont care for fresh water  Sad

thanks for your help i will update u when i can
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2010, 02:24:12 AM »

jordan:: In the states I heard it's quite common to drag a goldfish to the vet as there are a few specializing in goldfish.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2010, 07:36:06 AM »

Hi Jordan,

I hope I could help... where do you live?
Here in Australia we do have vets who work together with  pet shops and goldfish are pets too, also the phone book here is full of vets.
Can you get Pimafix and Melafix? This is a special fish medication on natural basis. You should be able to get it at least over the net, perhaps on e-bay.
But your fish needs help NOW. I am glad to hear you treat for swim bladder.

Yes, please keep us updated, hope your fish will get better soon.
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jodan
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2010, 12:36:49 PM »

i live in ontario canada. yes i can get all the meds i needs for my gold fish. i just have never heard of a vet that would try and help out a goldfish worth around 10$. i asked a vet once and he laughed at in. they are all in it for the money around here. if i go to the local fish stores they will try and help out if u get the right person. but like i said they are mostly for saltwater only and pond fish that is where the money is. anyway my fish look a little better now. i have also being keeping the light off for less stress and cleaning the bottom of the tank every day. my water is fine. the only problem i have with the water is it can get a little hard but i have someing for that.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2010, 11:14:42 PM »

Wouldn't it be bad to clean out the bottom of the tank every day? I don't really know, I just imagine it wouldn't be helping the cycle if that is the problem.

I suggest keep asking different vets/shops. There has to be somewhere out there that will help! Maybe call some universities or colleges, I've heard of specialists helping people out from there.

But to everyone suggesting just to feed them peas, may I ask why? Just wondering why this would help Smiley

I really hope your fish gets better soon!
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2010, 01:56:06 AM »

peas are just high in nutrients. if the fish is sick because of a lack in nutirents, then pease will help.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2010, 02:16:39 AM »

Hi Andrea

Peas and other vegetables provide goldfish with additional nutrients sometime that are lacking in store bought fish food (pellets, flakes, etc.)  The vitamins in these commercially packaged fish food will slowly degrade over time.  Imagine if children and adults are forced to eat only  canned food everyday. They wouldn't look healthy at all.

Peas will also help the fish's digestive system and perhaps even reverse swim bladder related problems.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2010, 05:02:19 AM »

It is bad to clean the bottom of the tank every day, it's stressful for the fish among other things. And unless there's a problem with water quality, it's better to change water and clean the gravel once a week.

jordan: Did you test the water at all? And are you trying to treat your fish in any way you've been advised to do?
If this is something more serious than constipation (which you're treating with the peas) you'd know when testing the water and noticing that the peas aren't helping.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2010, 05:14:55 AM »

Hi Andrea, Peas don't ONLY provide additional nutrients, but they also clean out the digestive tract, this is why it is recommended to feed peas at least once a week.... this reminds me I need to buy frozen peas again....
In case of constipation peas help to get back to normal.

Jordan, as Nossie asked, how are your water parameters? Please test for: Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, pH.

If there is an infection present you shoud think about treating with Melafix/Pimafix or in case the infection is more severe you will need to get antibiotics.
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2010, 07:08:06 AM »

Well the things you learn Smiley Thanks everyone. I've been feeding Sunshine peas lately and he is absolutely loving them. Good to hear how nutritious they really are and the fact that they clean out the digestive system is amazing,
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jordan
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2010, 07:41:22 AM »

hi guy i woke up this mouring and my my fish are doing good thanks to all. i have a bare bottom tank so cleaning there mess up every day takes about 30 seconds. its not that stressfull for them.i have tested the water its is fine i have 2 aqua clear 70 filters on my 55 gallon tank. they keep the water perfect most of the time they swim up to me and nibble at my hands becuase i hand feed them peas. my dad feeds his koi peas out of a spoon the are huge 2 1/2 feet long and over 10 lbs

it must have been swimbladder. i have to go away for a day for a day so i just wont give them any food. i will update u guys with pictures next week    thanks to all
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2010, 03:30:02 PM »

No Worries, jordan.

This is why we joined the board. To help each other, to share experience, to have fun and to comfort each other too..... Wink

I AM SO GLAD YOUR FISH IS DOINIG ALL RIGHT.

What's their names? Looking forward to see some pics  Cheesy
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Nicole
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2010, 04:08:24 PM »

Andrea: You have a fish named Sunshine, too?  So do we!  Ours is a lemon yellow comet goldie.  How cute to know!
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2010, 04:18:19 PM »

Good Morning Andrea, Nicole

this is fantastic, we do have 2 Sunhine here. Well, I suggest to take some pics  so we can see the two Sunshine  Wink
( I know this is a bit off topic here, better to post in "Photos & Videos"....but it is a reply to the last post )
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2010, 10:00:43 PM »

hi guys it wont let me post a pic for some reason if u want one email me at (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2010, 11:30:43 PM »

how bigs the file?
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2010, 02:45:38 AM »

Maybe you need to join as a member before posting pics?
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2010, 03:00:15 AM »

I've posted a photo of my Sunshine in the pictures and video section if you wanna check it out Smiley
But aw Nicole, it is such a lovely name for a fish I think. Mine is a comet aswell but an orange one.
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2010, 05:31:13 AM »

hello,i hvae ,2 goldfish and they is about 10 cm piece of slimy intestine like substance coming out of the larger ones bottom,this is the 2nd time that i have noticed,the pink colourede smaller fish started to excrete last night and i found it dead at the bottom of the tank HELP Huh
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2010, 05:59:05 AM »

 Sad Annie, I am sorry for your loss and I feel so helpless, never heard of those things happened to your fish.
I hope there is somebody out there who reads your post asap and CAN help  Sad
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