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PixieBecky
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oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« on: July 26, 2011, 01:12:47 PM »

Well Mr. Bubbles is this beautiful Orange chubby Oranda. But sometimes I look at him and think "goodness he's going to pop" I know it sounds horrible...... Imagine how I feel bah! so my question is how do i know he's eating enough but not overeating? He's soooooo chubby!!!! Here's a picture, it's a little blurry because I don't use flash for my fishes.... ever
 By the way, I got Mr. Bubbles yesterday. So he's new
OKAY HERE WE GO
1. How big is your tank:  30 gal

2. For how long has the tank been set up: for over 2 years

3. How many fish: 9 fishes

4. What kind of fish: 2 oranda goldfish 5 neontetras 2 plecos

5. What are the water parameters:    Ammonia.........0 ppm
                                                            Nitrite..............0 ppm
                                                            Nitrate.............0 ppm
                                                            pH..........................6.8
                                                            Temp............76 degrees

6. How often do you perform water changes: every week

7. How big are your waterchanges:      25 - 50%

8. What kind of waterconditioner are you using: API Stress coat water conditioner

12. How is the normal behaviour of your fish: they swim around and eat and swim and swallow bubbles

13. How do the other fish behave: They are very peaceful and never bother the other fish

15. Do you have a filter on your tank, what kind, how big (gallons per hour). I have an Aquaclear power filter Model 50 Maximum Output: 200gph  Full Flow Control: 66gph

16. Do you provide extra aeration with an air pump and air stone/diffuser of some kind.
                I have a tetra air pump connected to a 12" inch stone
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2011, 01:51:45 AM »

Sounds just fine to me. But do expect to notice missing neon tetras as the goldfish grow, they'll most likely be eaten. Not to mention that you shouldn't keep goldfish together with tropical fish, neon tetras in particular like soft, acidic water, while goldfish prefer hard, alkaline water.

Would you mind buying yourself a test kit? So you can test your water properly for nitrates, nitrite and ammonia? Smiley
It's a good idea to have one in case your fish would ever start acting strange, then it'd be easier to pin point the reason, for instance, nitrite or nitrate poisoning have their own kind of symptoms, and adding medicine for that would be plain useless.

I'd also suggest that you start changing only 50% every time you change water, your tank might be slightly crowded so bigger water changes are ideal Smiley
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PixieBecky
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2011, 12:27:39 PM »

Oh yea I own the TetraTest Laborett kit. I tested the waters today. They're perfectly fine.

So far I Haven't seen any neontetras missing or any of the goldfish picking at them. I own a 250 gallon saltwater tank so taking care of waters is a peace of cake.

I performed a 50% water change today. They're all happy and swimming around. I was just a little curious on how much I should feed Mr. Bubbles because Goldy the smaller oranda sees the food and gets it all, while Mr. Bubbles I have to wiggle my finger and he comes and eats it from my fingers.
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 02:31:53 AM »

In that case, no problems anywhere! Cheesy (You wouldn't notice the goldfish picking on the neons, at most you may see one getting eaten just like that... goldfish aren't really bullies Smiley)

Just keep doing what you're doing Smiley
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 07:54:27 AM »

I love how chubby orandas are!  There's one at our local petstore in a big tank, and every time I see him, I just want to tickle him and pinch his little cheeks!
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PixieBecky
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 08:56:45 PM »

Thank you!!!
 
and Nicole, I wanted to do the same thing when I got Mr. Bubbles!! I just want to hug him <3
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2011, 09:18:33 AM »

Your guy sure is chunky!! What a cutie! So...her question never really got answered...can they get TOO fat?  I have orandas also so its something I worry about from time to time.
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2011, 10:10:54 AM »

I suppose if you give your goldfish access to a large ammount of food each day it will start to blimp out...doing so may lead to problems like swim bladder disorder, but a natural chubby goldfish is very normal...Orandas are fancy goldfish known for their naturally round body shape. I would just make sure that the food intake is controlled moderately and know that a "spare tire" on a fish is natural.  Wink Of course, over-feeding leads to problems, but goldfish tend to get more than their fair share due to their love for munchies...  Cheesy
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2011, 02:09:16 PM »

I fed them peas yesterday. They Loooooooooooooved it! of course that's not everyday food
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2011, 02:29:14 AM »

Fish can get obese if you feed them lots of food like ox heart aside from the pellets/flakes. It's the fat+carbs combo. It can even cause heart problems, but as long as you feed them healthy foods in reasonable amounts, several times a day, as we already discussed, there's no way they would get too fat.
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2011, 05:23:18 AM »

I don't know if other fish do this but my get really stressed after eating to much.
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2011, 08:33:29 PM »

My two orandas know where I feed them, which is the front corner of the fishtank. They wait there ALL DAY for me. I get some flakes and put them in and make sure they sink. They're happy little orandas. sooooo cute <3 Smiley  Smiley Smiley
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2011, 09:51:04 PM »

I have two orandas. I just wanted to mention that I had a maturing cat fish in a 20 gallon with my oranda. One day i noticed the oranda thrashing about the tank, when i gave it an extra look i notice the cat fish was lodged in my chubs throat. I used rubber pliers to pull him out. The cat fish died and I think the oranda's upper digestive system could be compromised. It has been a month and a half and the oranda is not pooping. I would also caution against gravel and opt for a "bare" bottom as I think my chubbs might have ate a rock, which is probably why i havent seen him poop in a week.

Good luck! 
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2011, 02:52:00 AM »

Oranda Chubbs: Don't take out the gravel and don't tell anyone else to do so either. As long as the size and shape of the gravel is safe, there's no risk that the fish would get hurt on it, taking it away will only force your fish to act in an unnatural way (in nature, they find their food in the sand/gravel/mud). I really don't support that idea just for the owner to feel safe :/

Next, keeping cat fish with goldfish isn't a good idea unless you know which cat fish are peaceful and good company.
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2011, 08:33:06 PM »

I was told to put several large rocks to which they can slurp off of from time to time instead of gravel. Sand, i heard, is like applying sand paper to the inside of my fishy's gills... Cry. You have to understand oranda's are not bred in nature, they did not happen because of adaptations, they are lab fish, you must take special percautions,  therefore it's all about what the owner cares about and what the owner can tolerate.

Thanks!
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2011, 09:13:04 AM »

Yep, sand shouldn't be had when keeping goldfish, but a smooth medium sized gravel is perfect and won't cause any problems.
Even if the fish have been bred to have certain looks, they're still animals with instincts.
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 09:01:37 AM »

after I read you all I still don't know how much and how I should fish Beauty my Oranda ...he's kinda fat ...I don't want to starve him to lose some weight ,but I don't want him to pop either can some one who owns big Oranda gives me an idea ....thank you very much
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Re: oranda fishy Mr. Bubbles
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2012, 02:06:09 PM »

I would suggest looking at this thread: (Link is not visible to guests. Please register to view.)
since you have an oranda, vegetables are a very important part of its diet in order to keep the digestive system going Smiley feed him only a tiny, tiny amount of food three times a day.
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