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BubblesGold
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Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« on: July 04, 2010, 06:37:55 AM »

We are looking a new fishy friend for our goldfish who lost her friend recently.
Now I really love the goldfish I've seen at our local fish shop, some are the same size as our Lily, but it was my daughters fish that died and she wants to buy a Pictus cat, I have googled it and tried different spelling but I can't find any info on it anywhere.
She really fell in love with it! I don't know what I'm going to do.
The man in the shop said that they should be fine together but I wanted to know more about it first before going back to ask the man more questions about it. Don't want my daughters hopes getting higher!
She even told the fish man to keep him for her! Not sure if he will though.
The fish shop owner has a great reputation, so I'm sure he is right, he just said to introduce him very slowly, a tiny bit at a time.

My son on the other hand owns our Lily and he wants a snail or something a bit different for the tank, do you know of anything that might suit?

I just want another Goldfish, I've seen lots at the fish shop that I would love to buy!

Is our tank big enough for all of these? It's 110 litres.
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Hanna
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 06:52:12 AM »

Hi BubblesGold.
A Pictus Cat is a catfish: PICTUS CATFISH.
They need lots of bottom space and they can grow fairly big, average 8 inches, sometimes up to 12 inches. They like to live in schools, 3 or more, they are very active when not hiding.

As far as I know, catfish are not ideal to keep with goldfish, but with tropical fish.
Goldfish are freshwater fish, they need different environment conditions than tropical fish.

Hope I could help a little  Smiley

My personal preference is to keep goldfish with goldfish, also streamline shaped ones only with streamline shaped ones as they are quick swimmers. Not to recommend to keep them with eggshaped GF.
For example comet, common and shubunkin are beautiful together, all streamline shaped.
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 07:22:06 AM »

Catfish in general have different needs for their environment, different water quality and temperatures suit them, as most of them want rather soft and warm water, like tropical fish. Another thing is that they might start eating the slime coat of goldfish, and  that would, if left unattended, easily kill the fish.
Besides, most catfish grow big, and most of them enjoy company of their own species, so I would strongly advise against these...

Snails should be fine, though! There are plenty of pretty snails that you could buy Smiley But they will be a pain to get rid of later, since most snail lay eggs absolutely anywhere and everywhere.

I think I read that Lily is a common goldfish, right? Smiley In this case, you should get her, like Hanna mentioned, another streamlined goldfish as a friend, such as comet or shubunkin, which are both real beautiful varieties Smiley These are most compatible as they are all quite boisterous and will easily compete for food Smiley
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 10:09:17 AM »

Hi Bubbles,
You can keep a Pictus catfish with a goldfish if you provide a heater in your tank and keep the water temperature between 72-77 degrees F (22-25 C).  It has a very placid/docile temperment. It can live in either soft or hard water.
It is very hardy and prefers a neutral PH but can live in more alkaline water.  It is noctunal and usally likes to feed at night.  You would have to make sure to drop in a bottom feeder tablet after lights on the aquarium our out so the goldfish doesn't eat it's food.  It will grow to about 6 inches.
I actually had one at one time, I adopted it and some goldfish from someone who kept it and their goldfish together.  Very beautiful fish indeed!  The only thing you have to watch out for is that it's pectoral fins are very sharp and can get caught in a net so another method of removal from a tank may be required. Smiley
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 04:39:44 PM »

From everything I've read and heard, goldfish are best kept with other goldfish because of temperature and nutritional needs as well as the dangers of them catching diseases from other species (koi in particular).
It is also best to go with the same general body shape.  If you have a common, comet, or shubunkin, keep them with long-bodied fish.  If you have an oranda or one of the other "round" goldfish, you should keep them with the same type.  The danger here is that the round-bodied fish are usually slower swimmers and might not get enough food.
That's my two cents, anyway...
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Hanna
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 06:06:46 PM »

Hi BubblesGold,
I think I read in your other posts that you got a new tank? If this is the case -and I am not confusing you with sby else- I may suggest sth:
make a nice goldfish tank out of your 110 l one, get Lily another mate because she needs one of her own (sure you can explain this to your son and your daughter)
with the other tank you can have a nice small community tank with the catfish, snail and a school of small tropicals but make sure they prefer the same environmental conditions.

This are only ideas what to do, then everybody is pleased,  Wink
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BubblesGold
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 04:15:50 AM »

Thanks for all of your advice.
When I typed in Pictus Cat I did get lots of info on catfish, just couldn't find it specifically, I was reading lots of mixed things about catfish, some are ok with golfish and some aren't, it's v confusing.

Anyway I thought it best to ask here, as my priority is for Lily.
I like the idea of letting my daughter pick the catfish and putting him in the smaller tank and I could pick a friend for Lily for her tank.
My kids birthdays are coming up within two months time, so they could buy a bigger tank then for the catfish my daughter wants and snail or crab that my son wants.

That's that sorted then! Thanks!

Now, where am I going to put that other tank? lol.
Ooh, I know, I could remove the tv from kids room and put the tank on the tv stand, hee, hee.
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Hanna
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 04:21:02 AM »

No worries, BubblesGold, happy to help  Cheesy

Just keep us updated how Lily is going and how things will go on with the catfish and snail
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2010, 07:06:33 AM »

Don't get a snail!!!! They destroy tanks even more than goldfish do and they don't need another snail to have babies so soon your tank may be filled with snails!
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 08:26:10 AM »

Andrea: Lol, I understand what you're sayin'! We were quite tortured by our snails for months until we got rid of those! In the end, mom was crushing every single one she found, and cleansed the plants and filter from top to toe just to make sure that there are no eggs left xD

So once you get a snail, you'd better be prepared for this... o______o
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BubblesGold
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 01:50:56 PM »

Lol. After reading that, I'm going to say to my son, my son may change his mind on the snail.
Thanks Mindemae, the Pictus catfish does look very sweet and friendly.
We'll have to see what we end up with and where they all end up. lol.
At least I have two tanks now!
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 09:54:23 PM »

let your son have 1 snail if u get more than that there is where the problem starts. there is still a chance of this problem just make sure there is no spot to lay the eggs. they only lay eggs out of water and then the eggs will fall in
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2010, 05:44:43 AM »

But some snails (all I think) don't require a partner, they can have babies all by their selves.
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Re: Fishy friend for our goldfish?
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2010, 04:41:27 PM »

ALL snails can reproduce without a partner
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